Correct recoil pad for 1910 Sterlingworth pin gun

[577Boxer]

Hello all,

What kind of recoil pad would a 1910 "Sterlingworth Co." pin gun have shipped with? The gun I'm looking at is a 51xxx and the butt has the thin, tattered remains of what might have been black leather? Definitely not orange. Length of pull is 14-1/4 now, so I would not want to lengthen it much.

Can anyone please point me to a source for a correct reproduction?

Thank you

[44whiskey]

welcome to the fox forum, im sure someone will chime in with info you are seeking, good luck.

[vaturkey]

That early I have no clue except perhaps a Silvers pad. Far as I can recall Jostam wasn't made then, neither was Hawkins or No Shoc. How thick is the pad on the pin gun?

This might help:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ub ... 6&page=all

[Researcher]

Both the 1910 The Sterlingworth Co. catalog ==

and the 1911 A.H. Fox Gun Co. catalog --

list a Silvers pad as a $5 option. I can't feature many folks springing for a $5 option on a $25 gun.

[577Boxer]

Thanks!

1) I'll see if I can get some photos of the gun in its current state, and post them.

2) Are reprints of those 1910, 1911 catalogs available for download or purchase somewhere?

[Researcher]

2) Are reprints of those 1910, 1911 catalogs available for download or purchase somewhere?

No. Reprints of the 1907 A.H. Fox Gun Co. "Campfire" catalog have been available since Lightner Library produced it back in the mid-1970s.

Cornell Publications has a repro they claim to be of the 1909 "Campfire" catalog, but I've not examined it to be sure they are right.

https://www.foxcollectors.com/fox-catal ... -directory

The 1910 The Sterlingworth Co. catalog is extremely rare. I have never actually seen one, but a fellow collector sent me a photocopy.

[577Boxer]

Thanks. Whoever has those catalogs is sitting on a treasure. Why not publish them? Or photocopy for a fee? I would gladly pay.

I requested and got some pics of the Sterlingworth in question. Can anyone identify what kind of pad (?) was on this gun? It seems to have worn away. I was wrong about the LOP...looks like it is exactly 14" from front trigger. So, if a Silvers pad is appropriate, I would be OK with a LOP of 14-1/2" if that's how it works out. I see some cheap "Sterlingworth" butt plates for sale on eBay but it's unclear how correct these are, and if they are made of metal, wood, or plastic.

Anything is OK for me (compared to how the butt is now), but If possible, I'd like a correct style pad if I go with this gun.

Thanks again for your help!

[Researcher]

That is a replacement stock on that gun. The checkering pattern and the grip cap are not correct.

[577Boxer]

Really?! Well, I guess that is going to lower the asking price, isn't it? Thanks for the observation!

I suppose then, it doesn't much matter what the "correct" pad would be, and if I go with this, just choose whatever fits.

Curious... historically, was it common for owners (or sellers) to fit a new stock (which must entail some work) to a low-priced gun? From the look of it, as best I can tell, this re-stocking must have been done long ago.

[577Boxer]

That's weird--there were a couple other posts here that seem to have disappeared. Were they deleted accidentally?

In any case, thanks everyone for the information. I will try to get a few more photos of the gun.

[Silvers]

That's weird--there were a couple other posts here that seem to have disappeared. Were they deleted accidentally?

Mystery solved. On Monday I deleted my reply dated last Friday. I do that in the public forums after three days if no acknowledgment of my time by the poster or by others who've read the reply. Apparently my info was of no value and thus I delete it. That's the way I do it. frank

[eightbore]

Frank is correct in being disturbed by the lack of replies to good information. I guess I should try to figure out how many posts I should delete, given the criteria. Considering that I have been posting on side by side shotgun sites since the beginning of the internet, it is probably in the tens of thousands. On this site, I could probably try for a blanket delete of everything I have ever posted.

[44whiskey]

frank, your post about pitch prompted me to research pitch and its effects. i was not schooled in this aspect of stock fit and did not reply because of lack of knowledge.eightbore, every morning i get coffee , check new post and if they are few i dredge old post,i appreciate all of the info i learn from members past postings. i hope old post remain. also i wonder about posters who were prolific and stopped posting, many that have i checked the last visited date and wonder if they have passed.if so their post are somewhat of a legacy.the old post are of value to me.fred

[vaturkey]

frank, your post about pitch prompted me to research pitch and its effects. i was not schooled in this aspect of stock fit and did not reply because of lack of knowledge.eightbore, every morning i get coffee , check new post and if they are few i dredge old post,i appreciate all of the info i learn from members past. i hope old post remain. also i wonder about posters who were prolific and stopped posting, many that have i checked last visited date and wonder if they have passed.if so their post are somewhat of a legacy.the old post are of value to me.fred

I actually use the search function a lot looking for info. PS. You are correct in that some of the old posters who were here years ago have either passed on or moved on.

[Jeff S]

frank, your post about pitch prompted me to research pitch and its effects. i was not schooled in this aspect of stock fit and did not reply because of lack of knowledge.fred

Whiskey, “Pitch” would probably be a great subject for a thread. If memory is correct, two very good shooters (Silvers and Mike of the Mountain) have mentioned that too much pitch can be an issue for some shooters. I find that a little disturbing because a well known gunsmith increased the pitch on one of my guns (maybe that was a mistake). I have never been “schooled” in proper gun. Maybe I should add that to my bucket list.