Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
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Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
I just picked up a Remington Sportsman 12ga and it's nothing fancy just a neat old gun. The reason I wanted it , it has a Cutts compensator on a skeet barrel and with it came the 5 tube set still in the wooden case with wrench. This is my question and it's probably aimed at Dave N. I tried to decipher the date code which is on the side of the barrel, CK 3 KG, and the S/N on the side of the receiver, 397927. Ventilated rib, cross bolt safety and Remington hard buttplate.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
The Receiver with that serial number was put in work during July 1937. That is right in the time frame Remington quit the separate serial number sequence for 12-gauge The Sportsman in the 5xxxxx range and started using the Model 11 sequence for both. The only difference is the magazine tube and the forearm wood. My 12-gauge The Sportsman 507664 has a 30-inch solid rib IMP MOD barrel with a date code PE (P = June E = 1936) and the receiver was put in work sometime in 1936. The 12-gauge The Sportsman ledger page shows that by Jan 24, 1936, they had reached 505939 and then the next entry is Feb 12, 1937, when they had reached 510525. The last The Sportsman serial number receiver was 515506 by Aug 24, 1937.
KG (K = May G = 1938) is likely the date code for the barrel and CK3 (C = April K = 1941) is a repair code for when it went back to Ilion for some unknown service.
Sounds great!! Think of Bobby Stack when you shoot it --
KG (K = May G = 1938) is likely the date code for the barrel and CK3 (C = April K = 1941) is a repair code for when it went back to Ilion for some unknown service.
Sounds great!! Think of Bobby Stack when you shoot it --
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Daryl if you bring your new Sportsman to Mike's I will bring a M-11 and we can shoot the vintage auto event together. Let me know CraigDarylC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:47 pm I just picked up a Remington Sportsman 12ga and it's nothing fancy just a neat old gun. The reason I wanted it , it has a Cutts compensator on a skeet barrel and with it came the 5 tube set still in the wooden case with wrench. This is my question and it's probably aimed at Dave N. I tried to decipher the date code which is on the side of the barrel, CK 3 KG, and the S/N on the side of the receiver, 397927. Ventilated rib, cross bolt safety and Remington hard buttplate.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Sounds good Craig. I'll bring it and we can shoot the vintage auto event. I wonder if my 3/4oz loads will work in it???fox-admin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:20 amDaryl if you bring your new Sportsman to Mike's I will bring a M-11 and we can shoot the vintage auto event together. Let me know CraigDarylC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:47 pm I just picked up a Remington Sportsman 12ga and it's nothing fancy just a neat old gun. The reason I wanted it , it has a Cutts compensator on a skeet barrel and with it came the 5 tube set still in the wooden case with wrench. This is my question and it's probably aimed at Dave N. I tried to decipher the date code which is on the side of the barrel, CK 3 KG, and the S/N on the side of the receiver, 397927. Ventilated rib, cross bolt safety and Remington hard buttplate.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Thanks Dave. This is better than a Parker factory letter. My barrel is marked skeet and it looks like Bobby's gun could be mine complete with the Cutts.Researcher wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 11:49 pm The Receiver with that serial number was put in work during July 1937. That is right in the time frame Remington quit the separate serial number sequence for 12-gauge The Sportsman in the 5xxxxx range and started using the Model 11 sequence for both. The only difference is the magazine tube and the forearm wood. My 12-gauge The Sportsman 507664 has a 30-inch solid rib IMP MOD barrel with a date code PE (P = June E = 1936) and the receiver was put in work sometime in 1936. The 12-gauge The Sportsman ledger page shows that by Jan 24, 1936, they had reached 505939 and then the next entry is Feb 12, 1937, when they had reached 510525. The last The Sportsman serial number receiver was 515506 by Aug 24, 1937.
KG (K = May G = 1938) is likely the date code for the barrel and CK3 (C = April K = 1941) is a repair code for when it went back to Ilion for some unknown service.
Sounds great!! Think of Bobby Stack when you shoot it --
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
3/4 oz will not cycle. I only use 1 1/8oz target loads.DarylC wrote: ↑Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:04 amSounds good Craig. I'll bring it and we can shoot the vintage auto event. I wonder if my 3/4oz loads will work in it???fox-admin wrote: ↑Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:20 amDaryl if you bring your new Sportsman to Mike's I will bring a M-11 and we can shoot the vintage auto event together. Let me know CraigDarylC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:47 pm I just picked up a Remington Sportsman 12ga and it's nothing fancy just a neat old gun. The reason I wanted it , it has a Cutts compensator on a skeet barrel and with it came the 5 tube set still in the wooden case with wrench. This is my question and it's probably aimed at Dave N. I tried to decipher the date code which is on the side of the barrel, CK 3 KG, and the S/N on the side of the receiver, 397927. Ventilated rib, cross bolt safety and Remington hard buttplate.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
I figured as much. Thanks for the heads up. See you Thurs.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Hey Daryl. I saw this article and thought of you.DarylC wrote: ↑Fri Jul 18, 2025 1:47 pm I just picked up a Remington Sportsman 12ga and it's nothing fancy just a neat old gun. The reason I wanted it , it has a Cutts compensator on a skeet barrel and with it came the 5 tube set still in the wooden case with wrench. This is my question and it's probably aimed at Dave N. I tried to decipher the date code which is on the side of the barrel, CK 3 KG, and the S/N on the side of the receiver, 397927. Ventilated rib, cross bolt safety and Remington hard buttplate.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Thanks Jeff. As I said before back when I first started shooting we only had skeet and trap and just about all the famous shooters at my club were using them. One of the founding members of my club was a shooter named Harry Wright. Google him and Loch Raven Skeet and Trap club. The history of Col. Cutts is an interesting read too.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Sounds like Harry was quite a shooter.
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As Harry would tell the story of him coming across the Chesapeake Bay in a ferry before the bay bridge was built with a few dollars in his pocket and went on to become a multi-millionaire in the liquor distribution business.
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Re: Remington "Sportsman" 12 ga.
Great article Jeff. I still can’t get used to seeing them on a gun but appreciate the historical significance of them.
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