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What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:39 pm
by James Wark
I am fairly new to the fox field of collecting, I know 32 inch barrels are good. Didnt know of a 31 inch. But I dont understand what brought the value of this one so high.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/616967338
Jim

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:23 pm
by vaturkey
Big discussion about this on the Members Only forum of this website. Bottom line is no one can explain it other then two guys got into a bidding war. Might considering joining up. Lots of stuff in the Members only forum and you can also buy and sell doubles there.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 pm
by James Wark
Thank You
I had not seen the discussion
jim

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:50 pm
by Scott
That one has most of us scratching our head. :?:

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:59 pm
by Mills
You couldn't give me a super fox with cut barrels. The chokes are one of the main reasons to own a super fox

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:45 am
by vaturkey
Mills wrote:You couldn't give me a super fox with cut barrels. The chokes are one of the main reasons to own a super fox
If it would have gone in the 3K range with the cut barrels I would have been interested. I had contacted the seller and based on the dime test and what the bores were supposed to be I thought you would be looking at .035 and .045 for the chokes. That would have been fine for hunting the Shenandoah River down here in Va.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:38 am
by Stan Hillis
I just hope the ol' boy who sold it didn't get drunk and blow it all on baccarat or blackjack.

He HAD to have been celebrating somehow or 'nuther.

SRH

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:20 am
by FoxintheHenHouse
I'll repeat what I said in the "members only" forum ...

"I got a feeling you might see this Fox pop up again for sale in the future, not necessarily on Gunbroker though. You can bid to the moon, but that doesn't mean you have to actually pay for it."

FoxintheHenHouse.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:53 am
by vaturkey
FoxintheHenHouse wrote:I'll repeat what I said in the "members only" forum ...

"I got a feeling you might see this Fox pop up again for sale in the future, not necessarily on Gunbroker though. You can bid to the moon, but that doesn't mean you have to actually pay for it."

FoxintheHenHouse.
Agree. The two guys bidding it up had no feedback, which probably means they had both just registered with GB. Accordingly, they might have got caught up in the moment. This gun could be relisted again I'm guessing.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:52 pm
by gwsmith
Why the hell would it be worth your time to cut 1" off of a set of barrels - I understand cutting barrels is not a good idea on a vintage gun like this in the first place - but to cut 1" off just seems so stupid to me.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:25 pm
by Foxnut
gwsmith,
I agree on your sentiments of cutting off 1". Who knows, these were working guns and could have gotten damaged or just wanted an expedient way to "open up" the patten. I have a CE 16 Ga that has 25 1/4" barrels and it was originally a 26" barreled gun. Go figure!

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:17 am
by Stan Hillis
Best bet is muzzle damage. Duck guns catch hell.

SRH

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:12 am
by vaturkey
I bought a Sterlingworth 16 gauge 30" ejector a few years ago that had a big dent on the barrels on the breech end. Required micro-tig welding to fix and of course a new rust blue to make right. My gunsmith surmised that while the gun was apart the barrels were dropped on a concrete floor and that's when it happened. Crap like this happens all the time it seems. I'm guessing only 1" was cut off because the user wanted to retain as much choke as possible and cutting off 2" would have resulted in more loss of choke. I'd normally would say that making the barrels 30" would have made the gun sell better because it was a normal barrel length for some Super's, but it sure didn't matter in this case.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:49 am
by eightbore
One of the nicest HE Grade Foxes I didn't buy was a 30 3/4" with just loads of choke left. The price was in the mid twos and worth it.

Re: What was special about this Fox on GB

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:16 pm
by Jeff S
I agree with the "barrel damage" assumption. When I received my well worn Sterlingworth, there was a crack in the end of the barrel, maybe 1/4" - 3/8" long. The gunsmith did an outstanding job of welding it, but someone else might have opted to cut it down. (Mine was already cut so it was short enough).