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Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:06 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Has anybody ever seen this marking on a Super Fox.... or any Fox before? I have not.

32" barrels, Kautzky trigger (intermediate)....heavy son of a gun, 9# 10oz.

tjw

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Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:24 pm
by bbman3
Never.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:23 pm
by Researcher
Is it 29092 that shipped to Remington Arms Co., Inc.? Looks like a July 1925 Remington repair code.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:38 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Thanks fellas.

No Dave, great thought though!! #29544

tjw

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:48 pm
by mhead
I haven't seen that mark either. One of my HEs has no grade stamps at all on the barrels or action .Has anyone else seen one with no marks.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:12 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Not me.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 8:00 am
by Silvers
Tom, is there anything special about the chambers, cones, bores or chokes? Bore OverSize by .003"? I'm thinking that "OS3" stamping looks like it was applied sometime after the gun was assembled ..... there seems to be some displaced metal which likely would have been polished smooth before bluing, had the stamp been applied at early assembly time. The "0" barrel weight stamps are smooth as I would expect. Lastly, the "3" is not the regular Fox font as used in serial numbers.

Mike, like others I haven't seen a genuine HE that didn't have the the Fox font "H" stamps on the frame bar and the barrel flats. I suppose one could have slipped out of the factory without stamping; and in that case a record card check and the special H Grade frame engraving would confirm.

Both of these inputs are ime. Frank

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:21 am
by eightbore
To whom was the gun shipped. Maybe we'll recognize the name and connect him with Remington. I'm with Dave, Remington repair code.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:58 am
by Don Ay
mhead wrote:I haven't seen that mark either. One of my HEs has no grade stamps at all on the barrels or action .Has anyone else seen one with no marks.
one of mine is not marked with grade just the 0 weight barrels and the "not guaranteed etc." has a 1923 era serial but was shipped in 28'

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:00 am
by fox-admin
The gun was shipped to HJ Hogg that's why it weights 9-10!!!

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 6:45 pm
by mhead
Thanks Frank and Don mine has a 23 era serial as well i believe . just with the O on the barrels . it cards as HE just no markings

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:01 pm
by xewizzard
The subject stamp looks like a Remington "return" stamp to me. I handled a Parker AA 20 which had 3 sets of similar stamps on the barrels. I have an HE 29578 30" that weighs 9# 7oz. They made them heavy that year.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 8:11 am
by MARSHFELLOW
Silvers, I agree with your take on the stamp. Really did not strike me as "Fox looking font"....but doesn't looked cobbed either... don't know. I will check my measurements later today, theyre at the office.

Craig isn't kidding.....it went to H.G. Hogg. Hey Murphy, was he famous??

XE, I wouldn't disagree with you & Dave, it does look Remington like..... cant imagine why it would have ever been THERE for a repair.

Thanks boys.

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:52 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Silvers, got the measurements. As I said before I am not a gunsmith and do not have AA+ gauges but I get darn close.
RT bbl .741 43k choke mwt 45K
Lft bbl .740 44 k choke mwt 44k

Anything seem out of the ordinary?

tjw

Re: Super Fox marking

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 6:26 pm
by Silvers
Tom, those measurements are within HE Grade parameters. Just based on the s/n this gun was likely made about when Fox reduced SF bore sizing from (nominals) .750" to .740". Maybe that's a factory R&D code or similar? I suppose most anything is possible but I can't imagine a scenario wherein Remington worked on this gun within a few months of its likely date of mfr. :? Frank