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Has anyone seen the 1906 A grade with hanging tags gun looks good to me. I guess this is a question for Frank or David. It states the gun has 3" chambers I thought all early guns were 2.5" chambered. Did this hurt the gun I guess not if you were going to duck hunt with it? I will leave it up to you guys Donnie.
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That is a cool gun, and the Wayne & Bristol Streets address hang tag with Ansley's signature really blew me away. I need another 30-inch 12-gauge like Obama needs more economic problems. But.....
We do see often enough in the records "chamber for 2 7/8 inch shells", "chamber 3-inch", "chamber for long shells" so it is certainly possible. No cards that early of course. I would have thought that they would have noted long chambers on the hang tag, but until we combine a gun and hang tag with a production card that mentions long chambers we will not know, and even then that would only be one data point. I at one time owned a very high condition 1920-vintage A-Grade 12-gauge I bought from Randy Shuman. About five years later I found the hang tag for that gun in the wares of a paper dealer at the Allentown, PA., gun show. Not nearly as much info on a 1920-vintage tag.
I'd like to see a picture of the watertable of number 1025, just for my own interest to see which patent dates are there. Very early guns I know with two-digit serial numbers have only "PAT'D Aug. 1, 1905 OTHER PATENTS PENDING", while guns I know with higher four digit serial numbers have the Aug. 1, 1905; Oct. 17, 1905 and Jan. 16, 1906 patent dates. I'm just wondering if there is some group of guns that just have the two 1905 patent dates.
We do see often enough in the records "chamber for 2 7/8 inch shells", "chamber 3-inch", "chamber for long shells" so it is certainly possible. No cards that early of course. I would have thought that they would have noted long chambers on the hang tag, but until we combine a gun and hang tag with a production card that mentions long chambers we will not know, and even then that would only be one data point. I at one time owned a very high condition 1920-vintage A-Grade 12-gauge I bought from Randy Shuman. About five years later I found the hang tag for that gun in the wares of a paper dealer at the Allentown, PA., gun show. Not nearly as much info on a 1920-vintage tag.
I'd like to see a picture of the watertable of number 1025, just for my own interest to see which patent dates are there. Very early guns I know with two-digit serial numbers have only "PAT'D Aug. 1, 1905 OTHER PATENTS PENDING", while guns I know with higher four digit serial numbers have the Aug. 1, 1905; Oct. 17, 1905 and Jan. 16, 1906 patent dates. I'm just wondering if there is some group of guns that just have the two 1905 patent dates.
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Nice gun. very good wood for it's age. Why would there be 7 oz. disparity between the weight listed on the hang tag and the weight the seller says it actually is, assuming the seller is correct? The wood couldn't have lost that much, it would be shrunk very badly to have done so.
Dave, do you often see that much difference?
Dave, do you often see that much difference?