B grades

bryanemch · Post by **bryanemch** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:58 pm

I enjoyed the articles in the latest newsletter and had some observations in the B grade article. It seems there were a few variables in the patterns, I noticed in the subject gun Ansley H Fox looks stamped as I have observed others. My B, second style also, is engraved. Just wondering if others have seen this and if this is random. thanks

Stan Hillis · Post by **Stan Hillis** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:20 pm

My 1918 BE.

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:45 pm

In all the pictures of Ansley H. Fox doubles I've saved, on one second gen B-Grade in the 15xxx has the name that appears to be roll-stamped on the frame.

Post by **fox-admin** » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:48 pm

My BE in the Newsletter article is roll stamped. Thanks for showing us your gun. There is always exceptions in collecting these Fox guns! Craig

thepalm0314 · Post by **thepalm0314** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 6:27 pm

Are there any more examples of Gen 3 engraving? How many were made and in what grades?

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 8:58 pm

The only 3rd gen 12-gauge B I've recorded is 19493.

I found 24 B quality 20-gauges up through 200304 and the card for 200306 says "new style engraving." Serial number 200164 is shown in The Double Gun Journal, Volume One, Issue 2,

I found 18 B quality 16-gauges up through 300219 and the card for 300221, an A-grade, that says "new type." Are these smallbores all 3rd gen or are some 2nd gen?

thepalm0314 · Post by **thepalm0314** » Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:09 pm

Thank you.

Greyfox · Post by **Greyfox** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:35 am

I have a BE Grade 12ga. made in 1915, serial #22XXX.

Silvers · Post by **Silvers** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:53 am

Greyfox, very nice. I've owned a few second gen B's and like many others here, they are my favorite.

I see you're in the northeast and on another thread you said you're an avid bird hunter and clays shooter. There are a few others here with the same interests and I sure hope you can make it to the Northeast SxS at Hausmann's Hidden Hollow in northeast PA in June. A Foxfest and bird hunters delight for sure and with plenty of grousey clays shooting to boot!

frank

Greyfox · Post by **Greyfox** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:41 am

Silvers wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:53 am Greyfox, very nice. I've owned a few second gen B's and like many others here, they are my favorite.

I see you're in the northeast and on another thread you said you're an avid bird hunter and clays shooter. There are a few others here with the same interests and I sure hope you can make it to the Northeast SxS at Hausmann's Hidden Hollow in northeast PA in June. A Foxfest and bird hunters delight for sure and with plenty of grousey clays shooting to boot!

frank

Thanks Frank! I have marked it on my calendar….Sounds like this event is right up my ally!

DarylC · Post by **DarylC** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 10:27 am

Greyfox wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 8:41 am
Silvers wrote: ↑Wed Mar 15, 2023 7:53 am Greyfox, very nice. I've owned a few second gen B's and like many others here, they are my favorite.

I see you're in the northeast and on another thread you said you're an avid bird hunter and clays shooter. There are a few others here with the same interests and I sure hope you can make it to the Northeast SxS at Hausmann's Hidden Hollow in northeast PA in June. A Foxfest and bird hunters delight for sure and with plenty of grousey clays shooting to boot!

frank
Thanks Frank! I have marked it on my calendar….Sounds like this event is right up my ally!

Frank is correct. If you make the effort to attend I promise you that you will not be disappointed. It's the one and only Fox event of the year.

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Wed Mar 15, 2023 12:07 pm

First generation B-Grade --

Second generation B-Grade --

Third generation B-Grade --

Fourth generation B-Grade --

Silvers · Post by **Silvers** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:50 am

Here’s a pic of a special Upland BE in the s/n 22,000 range that was ordered "ultra light" with C Grade wood and blued (not case colored) frame with special engraving. Fox got her to weight as ordered by heavily striking the barrels. I hunted grouse with her for a few years but she was too much of a good thing - too whippy - and I was always afraid of denting the really thin barrels. Traded her off and a few years later I saw her for sale on one of the internet sites with a rippled barrel where a dent had been pushed out. frank
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Silvers · Post by **Silvers** » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:22 pm

Greyfox, check your Private Messages (upper right quadrant of the page).

Silvers · Post by **Silvers** » Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 am

I had questions on that special BE I posted. Of course in that s/n range it's a 12-gauge, ordered and shipped at weight 6-6 (28" barrels). Ordered with Cyl and Full chokes. also with note: "Pattern gun and send patterns". Pellet counts were R 191/195 and L 321/329. Shot charge/pellet size were not noted on the Record Card. She was ordered by the Dad of a then elderly gent from SW PA who told the intermediary buyer I got it from that his Dad was a traveling salesman for a company in WV. A really cool gun but IMO not for brush hunting with thinner barrels and the inevitable trips/falls and swinging against saplings and limbs. frank

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