30" Barrels and twin ivories

bamboozler · Post by **bamboozler** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 7:43 am

Would those of you that have Fox guns with 30" bbls. and documented original factory twin ivory beads installed, please measure the distance from the muzzle to the centerline of the mid-bead and post your findings here?

TIA,
bamboozler

FOXIST · Post by **FOXIST** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:50 am

BAMBOOZLER
All the foxes I own that have factory twin ivory beads have the mid-bead exactly 1/2 the length of the barrels. a 30"inch gun would have the center bead at 15" from muzzle or breech. I have seen letters on guns that specify a location that the customer wanted to have the center bead which varied from the norm. Paul

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:04 am

Every now and then in the records one finds a purchaser requesting a specific location for a rear sight when the Lyman or Marbles twin ivory sights were ordered. So, the only way to really know is a Callahan letter.

bamboozler · Post by **bamboozler** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:05 pm

Thank you for your replies, I do have a letter ordered.

The gun in question has the mid-bead installed 14 1/8" from the muzzle. The seller represented the twin ivory beads as original to the gun. I asked specifically how he knew they were original and he replied that that he has seen several other Foxes with factory twin ivories and the location of the mid-bead on this gun was installed in the same location as those...I guess the letter will tell the tale

MARSHFELLOW · Post by **MARSHFELLOW** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:35 pm

I agree with Foxist....in my experience the mid-bead is halfway between the breech and muzzle....not absolutely exact exact but gosh darn close to it.

AmarilloMike · Post by **AmarilloMike** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:37 pm

I have one Fox XE sixteen with ivory beads that I have lettered. The midbead measures 15" from the breech on a 30" barrel.

I have one Fox XE twelve with two ivory beads that I dont' have a letter on. The mid-bead measures 14-7/8" from the breech.

Best,

Mike

Silvers · Post by **Silvers** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:25 pm

30" AE 12 gauge 1916 gun ordered "for Trap shooting" that letters with twin ivories, mid bead requested at 21-1/2" behind the muzzles. This is the scenario mentioned by Foxist in his reply.

30" very early B grade, too early for a letter but mid bead looks right, location is 12-5/8" back from the muzzles.

I know you asked about 30" barrels but FYI - 1909 Fox 32" CE that letters with twin beads, and its mid bead 15-1/8" behind the muzzles. No special notation on its location.

Silvers

Foxhound · Post by **Foxhound** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:45 am

My A-grade #321xx (1927) has the center bead 17 inches behind the front bead. I do not have a letter on the gun yet so I am not sure if the center bead was added. It looks right.