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16 gauge Baker

Postby SPE33 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:10 pm

Got this earlier this year.I’m double checking the increased picture posting capabilities.Betting we will see ALOT more of our members treasures!
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Jeff S » Tue Dec 31, 2019 10:16 pm

I don’t know a thing about Bakers, but that is a really nice looking gun. Thanks for posting.
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby SPE33 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:50 pm

Jeff, I’ve seen some articles on what some consider the ‘Top 5’double gun makers of the earlier part of the 20th century.In no particular order they were AH Fox,Lefever,Parker,LC Smith and Baker.The last two were true sidelocks.I’ve been on a quest to include at least one of each in my collection.Was lucky to find this 16 gauge Baker A grade last spring.First graded 16 I’ve encountered,most of the ones I’ve seen were their Batavia model which was their entry level gun similar to the Sterlingworth.All I need to find now is a nice Parker,preferably a 16.
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Jeff S » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:16 pm

SPE33, I have a Parker 16 ga. DH that is just a delight to carry :). I once read in Parker Pages that Parker always engraved a Setter on the right and a Pointer on the left (SRPL). The author referred to this as "Sir Pull". Unless my dog identification is incorrect, it appears that Baker chose the opposite scenario for their dogs, Setter on the left and Pointer on the right.
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Fin2Feather » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:11 pm

Pretty gun!
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Jim Cloninger » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:26 pm

I would think Ithaca would be ahead of Baker.
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby OH Osthaus » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:37 pm

Jim Cloninger wrote:I would think Ithaca would be ahead of Baker.
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i would agree with you Jim at least as a volume maker

Baker made some beautiful guns - with great engraving on the graded guns - this one is a good example - very nice find

of course WH Baker was involved in the founding of Ithaca, before ending up in Batavia -

Ithaca certainly made more guns - and Ithaca's graded guns have some ( IMHO ) of the best engraving, but for some reason they fall off many folk's radar
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby SPE33 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:48 pm

Googled ‘Top 5 American double gun makers’ just for fun.They listed 6.....All of the above and Ithaca too! Thanks a lot Jim,now I need to buy another gun!
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Researcher » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:45 am

Baker didn't make the cut for Mike McIntosh's The Best Shotguns Ever Made in America. He included Parker, A.H. Fox, L.C. Smith, Lefever, Ithaca, Remington Model 32 and Winchester Model 21. The same seven carried through in his later book Best Guns.
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby SPE33 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:20 am

Guess it all depends where you look .
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby OH Osthaus » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:24 pm

SPE33 wrote:Guess it all depends where you look .


:D everyone can make up their own list, there is no real doubt that Baker was a player in the American double world

its a nice gun from a good maker - like I said - always like his engravers work -
and have wondered if (with his connection, although he passed in 1889 ) if Baker used the same outside artists that Ithaca did

scroll down to the graded guns here - look a the 4th one down in the grade B side plate pics

http://www.bakercollectors.com/index.php?p=1_10_Photos
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Jeff S » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:06 pm

Wow! That's great reference material for a guy like me, who knows nothing about Bakers. Thanks for sharing it. Jeff
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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Researcher » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:36 pm

I wasn't bad mouthing Bakers. I own a couple.

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Re: 16 gauge Baker

Postby Mike of the Mountain » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:20 pm

Baker made some beautiful guns, however,no great American doubles maker list would be complete without the ever so classic Crescent Arms Mfg Co !!! 8)
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