Factory Letter

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griz
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Factory Letter

Post by griz »

Some here may recall a topic I posted last summer regarding some questions I had on a recently purchased Fox stamped "A" on the barrel flat and "B" on the water table with matching serial #'s.

The consensus of opinion was that a factory letter may clear up some questions. Said letter was received today and is posted below.

My Fox matches exactly all the specifications outlined in the letter. However, guess we will never know for sure if someone at the factory stuck a set of A-grade Krupp barrels on this gun or if someone with a factory matching stamp replaced the barrels at some later date.
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Post by fox-admin »

What type of engraving is there on the breech end of the barrels? That may tell you if the barrels are A grade or B. Many errors were made in stamping guns. I have seen guns without the Fox Proof stamp (late guns), guns with out the patent stamps etc. etc.
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At some point I'm going to post a couple of pics of an early A grade two barrel set I have, as I'd like to illicite some opinions.

I'll post close ups of the serial number stampings on the two barrels and forends, to illustrate that they appear identical in font and striking. My question will be, is it plausible that they're both "factory original" because the letter states that it was only a one barrel set.

In other words, either the barrels were added as an afterthought/order after the initial build was set, or the gun was returned to the factory later to have the barrels added. Close inspection doesn't provide any evidence that the second barrel set was cobbled up by some 'smith at a later date.

The point being, it suggests to me that the build information might not always reflect the exact details of the way the gun eventually left the factory, or that perhaps info on a particular gun wasn't updated with later factory alterations. Mr.s Researcher and Admin will surely have some opinions.

I once had one of 25 (?) Ithaca NID 7Es, in a two barrel trap and skeet set. The skeet barrels fit the action/forend perfectly and had all the proper stamps with correct font and striking, yet they were grade 3 barrels in terms of barrel engraving. Herschel Chadick inspected the gun for me and agreed that they were surely added later by the factory. Still wish I had that thing. :(
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Post by griz »

No engraving on the breech end of the barrels...which led me to believe they are "A" Grade.
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Post by Researcher »

Shooter,

It is generally considered that factory original multi-barrel sets will have 1s on one set and 2s on the other whereas a gun returned to the factory at a later date for a second set of barrels will just have the 2s on the new set.

I've got a gun that letters as a B-Grade "made for stock" but it is in fact a BE-Grade!?!
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