Ansley's DE grade

[loggy]

The new DGJ made it to Idaho today. There is a nice photo essay titled Ansley's DE Grade by Ned Schwing and Terry Allen. As always Terry's photos are exceptional. A beautiful gun.

[fox-admin]

Received my DGJ today---what a great gun and photo essay WOW!!

[Researcher]

Wow, I got my issue on the 2nd!! Nice photo spread, but I was a bit disappointed they didn't include a color photocopy or .jpg of the production card for the gun from John Callahan.

[loggy]

This gun has both the early and late style of ejectors. Perhaps the number two barrels were added later?

[MARSHFELLOW]

Interesting Loggy, I didnt notice the different ejectors, good catch. Personally, I suspect the gun was a gift or presentation from Ansley as mentioned briefly in the article. I have to imagine that Ansley's very personal guns may have had some type of "specialness"

tjw

[spyder]

Regarding the ejectors, the only difference I see is the barrel hook "block" is tapered on the #1 set, and squared off on the #2 set. Is that what you're referring to? Also, wouldn't the sears on both #1 and #2 forends be compatible with the earlier (I presume) ejector trips on the action knuckle? Thanks, Frank

Also: whoever is running the books be on the lookout for my dues check. I just sent it last week.

[Researcher]

Both forearms carry the Model 1911 stamp which would indicate the second style ejectors, but only have the old Max Wirsing patent date of Aug. 16, 1904, Patent No. 767,621, which covered the ejectors for the Philadelphia Arms Co. Fox gun; and the patent date of May 11, 1909, Patent No. 921,220, which was granted to A.H. Fox & G.A. Horne for the first style A.H. Fox Gun Co. ejectors. While the barrels have two different style forearm loops, the ejectors in the forearms look the same to my eyes and the best I can see of knuckle of the receiver it shows the F.T. Russell shape rather than the milled verticle groves of the A.H. Fox & G.A. Horne design.

[loggy]

Researcher, you certainly know your guns! I would have thought the barrels would have matched exactly on a gun with Mr. Fox's name on the card. One was the early style and the other the later one. John

[Researcher]

I have to imagine that Ansley's very personal guns may have had some type of "specialness"

Many years ago when I was doing a display of Fox shotguns at the Maryland Arms Collectors Association annual gun show, some elderly dude swung by my table on his way out and said "That Ansley Fox was a prevert. He had naked women engraved on his gun." I was kind of taken aback and before I could engage him in conversation, he headed for the exit door?!?

[eightbore]

How was the Eisenlauer provenance put together on the Ansley Fox gun? I thought I read the whole article but there must have been something missing.

[fox-admin]

The gun in the article was found in the Eisenlohr two barrel set case according to a conversation I had with the representative of the seller.
The current owner based on the DGJ article believes the gun was Ansley's personal gun. Make your own conclusions. All I know is I wish I owned the gun (I really tried my best!!) regardless if it belonged to Ansley or Eisenlohr.