Single trigger question of this week

[MARSHFELLOW]

Ok fellas, whose single trigger is this one ???

[Silvers]

It's a Miller done up on a Fox trigger plate that was originally made for double triggers. Rebated. Nice engraving. Wow! Silvers

[MARSHFELLOW]

Thanks Pan Silvers. You are correct about the floorplate.....off a little ol' DE. I thought it may have been a Miller, the trigger itself looked familiar but is unmarked. I never saw the guts of one before...you know me and screwdrivers.

tjw

[DSizemore]

I was wondering that very thing Uncle Tom. Did you disassemble that yourself?

[MARSHFELLOW]

Nah, ......lets just say it came to me that way Unc.

[Silvers]

Tomasz, I forgot to add, the Miller trigger in the pics is an early version that used the (altered) Fox safety to select the barrel firing sequence..... R-L or L-R.

[MARSHFELLOW]

Thanks Frank....interesting.

[studdog]

Glad you posted this. My XE trigger is not a miller looks like a Kautzky for sure. Thanks, George

[2X2]

Here is a "Miller" on an NID

[Researcher]

Are you sure that is not Ithaca's own single trigger? See H.E. Howland's Patent No. 1,818,852. The "factory" single trigger for early NID's was a Miller, but between the 1930-31 and the 1931-32 catalogues the text changes from "Single Selective Trigger $30.00" to "Ithaca Single Selective Trigger $30.00" indicating the change from the Miller supplied trigger to Harry Howland's.

[2X2]

Are you sure that is not Ithaca's own single trigger? See H.E. Howland's Patent No. 1,818,852. The "factory" single trigger for early NID's was a Miller, but between the 1930-31 and the 1931-32 catalogues the text changes from "Single Selective Trigger $30.00" to "Ithaca Single Selective Trigger $30.00" indicating the change from the Miller supplied trigger to Harry Howland's.

Yes, the picture is from a 1934 NID. From what I understand, Miller had a suit against Ithaca for copying his trigger. That's why I had Miller in parenthesis in the first post. I believe earlier triggers were marked 'Miller'.

[Silvers]

Early Millers were stamped MILLER on both sides of the trigger base. Here's one on a Fox. However, the trigger posted by Tom to start this thread is definitely a Miller, but it isn't stamped. Hummm.... Silvers

[Researcher]

According to Walter Snyder's Ithaca book the Miller triggers on the early NID's were not marked. That was a bone of contention between Lou Smith at Ithaca and Miller. If a single trigger on an Ithaca is marked Miller it was (or at least should be) an aftermarket installation.

[jim mayer]

In 1940-50 a Gunsmith From Italy changed many[100+] to single trigger each different for the individual gun. I just changed back one of his a a S.A. Leonard.jim

[jim mayer]

Galazan[Tony] owns Miller trigger remains jim