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fox skeet gun

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found a c grade 12ga phila fox #79922 has a simmons vent rib and two ivory beads. sst and ejectors barrls choked open, 26 1/2 in. bottom of barrells has sp and c stamped. huge foearm and turkish walnut stock. any ideas what this is?
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Without photos and a letter is would suspect this is someones custom project. The single trigger if it is a Kautzki and ejectors would be correct factory items but the Simmons add on rib, odd barrel length and Turkish wood are not.
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An obvious issue is that 79922 is a Sterlingworth serial number, not a graded Fox. If 79922 is correct, it shouldn't have a C stamp on the frame and/or on the barrels. Silvers
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Sounds like a cobbledtogether something!!!
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We need pictures.
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Twice Barrel wrote:Without photos and a letter is would suspect this is someones custom project. The single trigger if it is a Kautzki and ejectors would be correct factory items but the Simmons add on rib, odd barrel length and Turkish wood are not.
the wood may not be turkish but its high grade like you would expect on a c grade
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Silvers wrote:An obvious issue is that 79922 is a Sterlingworth serial number, not a graded Fox. If 79922 is correct, it shouldn't have a C stamp on the frame and/or on the barrels. Silvers
i goofed, the number is 7922 when i wrote to get it authenticted the guy said it was early and those records were gone.
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The plot thickens......................an early gun like that with SP on it.....??

Does the rib say "Simmons" on it?

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Whatever it is it is not a purpose built skeet gun as skeet wasn't invented until 1915 and become a popular sport until the early 1920s.
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Could that be a Savage Proof mark from a rebarrel or some such after production rather than a grade marking.
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eric fox wrote:
Twice Barrel wrote:Without photos and a letter is would suspect this is someones custom project. The single trigger if it is a Kautzki and ejectors would be correct factory items but the Simmons add on rib, odd barrel length and Turkish wood are not.
the wood may not be turkish but its high grade like you would expect on a c grade
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MARSHFELLOW wrote:The plot thickens......................an early gun like that with SP on it.....??

Does the rib say "Simmons" on it? yes simmons manufactoring

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eric fox wrote:
Silvers wrote:An obvious issue is that 79922 is a Sterlingworth serial number, not a graded Fox. If 79922 is correct, it shouldn't have a C stamp on the frame and/or on the barrels. Silvers
i goofed, the number is 7922 when i wrote to get it authenticted the guy said it was early and those records were gone.
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eric fox wrote:
Twice Barrel wrote:Without photos and a letter is would suspect this is someones custom project. The single trigger if it is a Kautzki and ejectors would be correct factory items but the Simmons add on rib, odd barrel length and Turkish wood are not.
the wood may not be turkish but its high grade like you would expect on a c grade
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Thanks.....I thought MAYBE it went back to the factory (Savage Arms) for the rib....hence the SP Savage proof. With "simmons" on there that blows the hell out of that theory.

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