Fox Collectors

Found a really nice 1908 Remington Autoloading Shotgun recently with what appears to be well preserved original finish.

Hope you all like it as well as I do.

Will

Will

The gun looks original to me, Will.
Jim

It certainly begs the question, "What the hell was wrong with Ansley Herman Fox?" After a few years of shucking a Winchester Model 1897 for the big W how could he be so blind to the future that he went ahead and founded two companies to manufacture side-by-side doubles -- Philadelphia Arms Co. and A.H. Fox Gun Co.? Remington Arms Co.'s John M. Browning designed autoloader hit the market in 1905, the same year the Ansley H. Fox double was introduced. By the time A.H. Fox Gun Co. was in receivership in early 1912, the boys and girls at Ilion had produced 100K of JMB's masterpiece and the Remington Autoloading Shotgun had won the Grand American Handicap twice.

Researcher wrote:It certainly begs the question, "What the hell was wrong with Ansley Herman Fox?" After a few years of shucking a Winchester Model 1897 for the big W how could he be so blind to the future that he went ahead and founded two companies to manufacture side-by-side doubles -- Philadelphia Arms Co. and A.H. Fox Gun Co.? Remington Arms Co.'s John M. Browning designed autoloader hit the market in 1905, the same year the Ansley H. Fox double was introduced. By the time A.H. Fox Gun Co. was in receivership in early 1912, the boys and girls at Ilion had produced 100K of JMB's masterpiece and the Remington Autoloading Shotgun had won the Grand American Handicap twice.

I've been the proud owner of a Belgium made Brown A-5 for 35 years. It's a great gun and it never, ever malfunctions. Why would Ansley leave it to build the A. H. Fox? To put it quite simply, the A-5 just isn't sexy.

Very nice Will still looking for a nice E grade Remy.

WOW! - That is a crisp one, Will! Kevin

Variety is the spice of life Jeff.I can sit in my tree stand and admire the beauty of my Sweet 16 slug gun all day.

I blame the Winchester Model 1897 and the 1901 Grand American Handicap for Ansley's going on to found two companies to manufacture side-by-sides. Ansley was one of 22 shooters to go 25 birds straight in the GAH and get into the shoot-off. But, with the Winchester Model 1897 the big W had him shooting, he missed the first bird in the shoot-off.

I vaguely remember reading an article about a presentation gun given by Remington executives just after the turn of the century to a Legislator from NJ...It seems the Garden State was considering a Bill to outlaw the use of semi automatic repeating firearms for hunting and this politician led the charge to defeat the bill...of course the presentation gun was if I remember a higher grade model 1900 side by side.
After my Favorite Foxes I have 2 pre WWI -12 ga. Remington auto's and a late 1950's 16 ga. Browning A-5 that I enjoy shooting nice looking gun Fowl gunner!

Researcher wrote:It certainly begs the question, "What the hell was wrong with Ansley Herman Fox?" After a few years of shucking a Winchester Model 1897 for the big W how could he be so blind to the future that he went ahead and founded two companies to manufacture side-by-side doubles -- Philadelphia Arms Co. and A.H. Fox Gun Co.? Remington Arms Co.'s John M. Browning designed autoloader hit the market in 1905, the same year the Ansley H. Fox double was introduced. By the time A.H. Fox Gun Co. was in receivership in early 1912, the boys and girls at Ilion had produced 100K of JMB's masterpiece and the Remington Autoloading Shotgun had won the Grand American Handicap twice.

Yes it was a bad move, however i am damn glade he did, Fritz.

Researcher wrote:I blame the Winchester Model 1897 and the 1901 Grand American Handicap for Ansley's going on to found two companies to manufacture side-by-sides. Ansley was one of 22 shooters to go 25 birds straight in the GAH and get into the shoot-off. But, with the Winchester Model 1897 the big W had him shooting, he missed the first bird in the shoot-off.

22 Men who went 25 straight 1901 GAH with arrow at Ansley H. Fox.jpg

Interesting Dave. Does it mentioned the reason A.H. missed that first bird? Was it a problem with the M97, maybe short-shucking it and he couldn't get the second shot off in time or did he just get beat by a good bird?

The reports at the time just called the bird a "fast driver" that he missed twice. The first bird he missed in the entire week's events at the 1901 Grand American Handicap. When Ansley started shooting for the big W in early 1900 he was representing their line of ammunition but shooting it in a Parker Bros. double. By August of 1900 they got him shucking the Model 1897.

Interesting that my two favorite characters from those times, Ansley H. Fox and Harold B. Money (De' Shootinest Gent'man) shucked Model 1897s for the big W.

"Fast driver that he missed twice".

Been there, done that , got the t-shirt.
Thanks for the info Dave.