Fox Collectors

Are there any differences between a receiver with extractors and one with ejectors other than internal parts?

Yep, sure are differences. Referring to the common, Russell patent ejector system.... the projection at the front end of the frame that pushes on a flat on the ejector rods when the gun is opened, but not fired, is shorter on an ejector gun. The ejector frame also has holes in the front knuckle radius for the ejector trip plates. I've read that these holes have plugs in them on some frames, and they can be "knocked out" to install the ejector-type mainspring followers but I've never taken note of that myself. If the holes are not there you'll have to locate them within a very tight tolerance.

Net, an extractor frame can be converted with some effort and availablity of precision machine tools, most parts can be found, but the trip plates will be extremely difficult to locate. Silvers

Thanks for the information. I'm new to side by side shotguns and have lots to learn. My only Fox is a 1927 A Grade, 12 gauge, 30 inch barrels.

Looked at parts diagram and list on another part of this site. I did'nt see a part by the name of "trip plate". I did see one called "trip". Any help would be appreciated. Any photo or drawing available?

The trip plate is not shown on the parts diagram. It is the tiny piece of hardened steel that is sqeeezed in the front fork of each ejector mainspring follower. The Russell patent refers to them as "trip plate".

It is not the TRIP. The trip is a different part that holds the lever open and it is shown on the regular parts diagrams Silvers

Frank, glad you told me the name for the trip plate. I called them little cross shaped parts! Bill Schwarz told me once that they were easily made.I have some new old stock main spring followers and the filled holes in nose of frame can be pushed out from inside the main spring holes and the frame easily convertd from extractor to ejector. The stud piece sticking out of hinge pin can be filed down to ejector shape. Bobby

Bobby, yes I'm sure the trip plate can be made if someone has the right stock, and a drawing or another one to model. Weird they aren't shown on the Fox parts diagram. Making them reminds me, when a teenager my cousin had a hot rod coupe. Finally the clutch plate facing blew off from burning out and we refaced it with pieces of masonite. It lasted about 5 seconds. Ya gotta have the right stuff. Frank

I have two or three new old stock ones, but i do not want to part with them.