Fox Collectors

There were two boxes of Western Cartridge Co. Lubaloy Super-Trap Loads in the Ward's Auction ended last evening. The two-piece box --
went for less than the later one-piece box --
Just the things to go with ones Fox SBT.

I guess this shell is all I'm ever going to own --

Yowie!! Thanks for pointing those out Dave. You're one Lubaloy ahead of me.
tjw

Dave, do you have a picture of a box from those eras that are decribed on the box as a "pigeon load" or "flyer load"?

It seems that Western Cartridge Co. considered their lighter powder charge 1 1/4 ounce Lubaloy load in the 2 3/4 inch 12-gauge RECORD case the Super-Trap load --
while the maximum powder charge 1 1/4 ounce Lubaloy load in a 3-inch RECORD case as the Super-X Live Pigeon Load --
I've never seen a box of these though they were in the Western Cartridge Co. catalogs and price lists from 1929 to 1949.

I saw those too, Dave. New to me.

What would that velocity have been? I've never seen a 3 1/8 - 1 1/4 loading listed on a DE chart.

3 1/4 - 1 1/4 is 1220 fps. Would you think it would be about 1170 ?

The powder choice is interesting too, for a 1 1/4 oz. load.

SRH

In 12-gauge, 3-1/8 DE x 1-1/4 ounce = 1190 velocity

JFI ….. 3 DE x 1-1/4 ounce = 1165

Thank you, Frank.

SRH

I sure would like to see Ward's offer a box of Western 1 3/8 ounces of Lubaloy #4 for us to enjoy, and maybe bid on. So far, no dice.

Like these Bill?

Will

And in a 1933 to 39 style box --

Thanks Dave.

Still looking for that one, the earliest Record 2-piece (If it exists), and the Foil and Plain Mark V.

Will

Wow, that is some trio of Nash's favorite shells.

Found this too!
Can't get it to rotate sorry.

Will

Thanks for those great pictures.

From the introduction of the Super-Trap load with Lubaloy shot in 1929, they were put up in the high brass RECORD case. From the April 1, 1930, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun --
With the introduction of non-corrosive primers in 1931, they began putting the Super-Trap load with Lubaloy shot in the FIELD shell. From the March 1, 1931, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun --