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A little different pumpgun
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:04 pm
by Stan Hillis
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:40 pm
by Jeff S
Very neat gun. I'll bet it has harvested a few bunnies in it's lifetime.
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:46 am
by WPGRIFFON
Interesting pump shotgun, I never saw one.
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:12 pm
by ROMAC
I've got a 20 also in the back of one of my safes.
There is an awful lot of machining to make that takedown mate up properly.
Really cool to see it in your hands how detailed it is.
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:27 pm
by tnmike
Nice pics and nice gun. What year?
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:13 pm
by Stan Hillis
These guns are hard to date exactly, because no serial number records exist. They all mysteriously burned up when J. Stevens Arms was about to be investigated for war profiteering, AIR. But, by catalog ads, etc. we can get to within a range of years. Doing that, this one appears to be from the latter part of the 1933-37 time frame. Researcher and Drew Hause have a good bit of info in old catalog pics, I think. 12s are much more plentiful than 20s.
Does yours have the suicide safety, ROMAC?
SRH
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:23 pm
by Stan Hillis
One thing about mine is not original. I changed the barrel bead. It had a very small brass bead. When I patterned it, it shot really high for me. All ribless shotguns, without a little block or ramp under the bead, shoot high for me. Not wanting to do anything that would modify the originality that couldn't be changed back, and wanting to get it to shoot closer to flat, I replaced the bead with a much larger (which would be higher) brass bead. It brought the patterns down just right. I saved the original bead. Can't have a gun that won't shoot where I want it to.
SRH
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:16 pm
by ROMAC
I took a look and mine in actually a Stevens 620, with no suicide safety.
A later variation according to what I've been told.
I was lucky and found this one in pretty good condition.
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:31 pm
by Stan Hillis
The 620 came out around 1938..........possibly as early as 1936, according to some.
Thanks for the pics, SRH
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:54 pm
by Researcher
The J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. introduced this John M. Browning designed pump gun in 12-gauge, called the No. 520, circa 1909. Higher grades were No. 522 to 535. In their 1927 Catalogue No. 57, J. Stevens Arms Co. introduced the new streamlined No. 620 version of this JMB designed pump in 12-gauge, and the No. 520 was moved to their lower priced Riverside Arms Co. line.
That was the last appearance of the humpbacked pump gun in any J. Stevens Arms Co. catalog that I've ever seen. By 1928, the No. 620 was also offered in 16-gauge and during 1929 the 20-gauge was added to the offerings. The No. 520-30 and the Model 30 seem to have only been manufactured for the government or in "trade branded" versions and included the 16- and 20-gauges, but they don't appear in any of my J. Stevens Arms Co. catalogs through 1946 and Savage/Stevens/Fox catalogs from 1947 into the 1980s. That said, here is a page from the 1951 Savage/Stevens/Fox parts catalog --
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:04 pm
by Researcher
Briefly, the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. manufactured a 20-gauge pump gun, called the No. 200, made to handle shells up to 3-inch.
- J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. Catalogue No. 54
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:56 am
by Stan Hillis
As promised..........
Wound up the early dove season yesterday afternoon. As hurricane Florence pushed it's way inland past us through South Carolina, we had temps in the upper 70s, light rain, and winds gusting to about 30 mph. Just the right conditions for an afternoon of great sport with doves!!
Decided to take the Westernfield/Browning 20 that I bought last year. I had shot a few clays with it, and replaced the bead to help get the pattern down a little lower (which worked perfectly), but it had been sitting waiting. I promised the previous owner it would see dove fields, so I decided yesterday was the time to fulfill that.
The birds were flying very high and fast. The leads it took on some were just phenomenal. I remember seeing what looked like 8-9 feet on several that I scratched down. The modified choke, with 1 oz. shot, worked great. We went too late. The field owner said we would take the field at 3. We should have been there at 12:30. I know the birds fed early because of the impending weather, but before it was over the little pumpgun managed 13 down. I paused for a break to snap this poor pic. Sorry for the quality of it, but I had something else on my mind.
SRH
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:12 am
by Silvers
What about a Stevens 522 (Trap version of the 520) that's flat out new, or at least 99.9% in all respects? 12-gauge with 30-inch solid rib barrel and factory straight grip stock to original buttplate, nicely figured. Just rough numbers, what's a fair buying price on this Stevens?
frank
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:19 am
by Stan Hillis
I really don't know a lot about the market on these guns, Frank. It is my understanding that they do not bring much money, an indication of there not being much interest in them at this time. However, I've never seen one in that high a condition.
Check your p.m.(s)
SRH
Re: A little different pumpgun
Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:02 am
by Researcher
Would it make any difference if it was a J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. --
- 1912
or a J. Stevens Arms Co.
- 1925
Pre or post WW-I.