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early A subguage
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:05 pm
by dennyibrandt
Am interested in how many early A 16's were made. Looked through McIntosh and couldn't find it or missed it. Have one with 30" barrels.........DEN
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:28 pm
by vaturkey
I think the book provides the total number of A grades in 16 gauge with a breakout of Philly versus Utica. I don't believe there is a breakout of how many were made with early style engraving versus the second generation engraving. FWIW, I own 300320 and it has the snap on forearm and the second generation engraving.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:45 pm
by Researcher
According to my records, 300219 is an 1913-style B-Grade, and 300221 is a Gough-style A-Grade, but 300222 is an early-style A-Grade. Everything I've recorded from 300227 on up is Gough-style. From my observations there are possibly eighty or so more early-style 20-gauges, but I have some serious gaps in my observations. Makes me really regret not buying 300100 a straight-grip A-Grade two-barrel set when I examined it at a show at the Arthur Ashe Center in Richmond well over 30 years ago.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:25 am
by eightbore
The Arthur Ashe shows were very nice. You can see the negative result of time by attending the Chantilly, VA shows, which are promoted by the daughter of Joan Davis, the promoter of the Arthur Ashe shows. Of course, you have to like black guns.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:41 pm
by bbman3
Dave #300168 first style engraving AE round knob 28 inch Krupp bbls. Bobby
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:42 pm
by Wenaha
I had no. 300004 a C grade with 28" Chromox bbls and snap-on FE.
I have 300450 an AE grade with 28" Krupp bbls, straight grip, Deely latch and Gough style engraving.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:43 pm
by Researcher
Guys, all three were already in my table, but thanks anyway!!
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:42 pm
by DarylC
Dave- A grade 9580 with minimal engraving but with great wood. Sorry it's a 12.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:48 pm
by Sporrns
Denny - Check out the "Early A-Grade engraving" thread - I posted pics of my early 16 ga. 'A' with engraving that I believe was "kicked up a notch." Kevin
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:37 pm
by Researcher
Kevin what is the barrel length and barrel material for your 300220?
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:43 am
by Sporrns
Dave the barrels are 28" Krupp Fluid Steel. The actual logos read, "Krupp Fluid Steel Made By" (right barrel) and "A.H. Fox Gun Co. Phila. Pa." on the left barrel.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:22 am
by Researcher
Great. Thanks.
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:00 pm
by abner
Dave: do you have 200239 with early engraving in your notes?
Re: early A subguage
Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 2:42 pm
by Researcher
Yes, thanks.