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Factory letter on HE Fox
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:13 pm
by Short range
Recieved the factory letter from J.T. Callahan, which states that HE fox #29582 left the factory on November 10 1924. Gun had 30 In. barrels choked full anf full wieght 9Lb 2 Oz. with 3" chambers. Gun was shipped to Whitney Sporting goods (no address provided).
DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ON THE WHITNEY SPORTING GOODS firm of 1924????An old fellow living in Salmon Idaho shot this gun in the 1940s and 50s. The gun then went to his nephews. They were very hard on the gun. I got the the gun from them. I had to have repairs done to the gun and have shot it for some time now. Gun has a Miller trigger and little collector value left. It does shoot lead 3 inch shotshells damn good,and gets several days in the field every year. I would like to know how the fox found its way west.
David
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:34 pm
by ed gagne
what are super foxes worth these days? i would love to have one even if it wasent the best of shape or even if it was repaired. sorry for not providing you with an answer to your question but you reminded me of the question i had been meaning to ask.
eddie
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:45 am
by fox-admin
I believe there was a Whitney Sporting Goods Co in Denver CO in that time period. Maybe a place to start.
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:47 am
by FRBRIT
Fox-Admin I believe your correct about Whitney being in Denver. I'm 50 and I can barely remember a couple of wholesell sporting goods outfit's here. Their was Burns, the house of toy's, another I'm brain locked on and Whitney.
It would make sinse that an Idaho gun shop would have ordered from the wholesell distributor in his region, which in this case probably would have been the rocky mountain region. For that matter Whitney may have been the Fox distributor for everthing west of the Mississippi?
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:04 pm
by Researcher
It is kind of tough to figure these things some times. The Roe Clark letter on my Super-Fox says it was shipped to Kennedy Bros., which is/was in St Paul, Minnesota, July 1928. I got it in Tacoma, Washington, in August 1963. Now certainly over the years a lot of folks moved from Minnesota and the Dakotas out to the Puget Sound region. The kicker is that the guy I got it from said he got it at an estate sale in Virginia?!?
I've always thought I would find a Baltimore Fox while I'm in Alaska, as they were being made at the time of the Gold Rush!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:23 pm
by eightbore
Mr. L, Whitney Sporting Good Company, Denver, Colorado (no street address) is mentioned in the Parker Brothers records and no other mention of Whitney after 1919 other than this one in those records, so I assume that the Whitney mentioned in your Callahan letter is the Whitney SGC in Denver that your gun was sent to. Hope this helps. Murphy
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:53 pm
by Short range
Thanks for the information on the Whitney Sporting Goods co. in Denver, Colorado. Like you said, the HE Fox most likely came west through the Denver Co. I copied all the responses and put them in the envelope with J.T. Challian's letter.
My question to the board is
Has anyone attemped to locate the small number of HE Fox guns that still exist today, and find out just what the guns are doing now? I would think that this would be a real interesting project, and your group does have the fire power to do this. Seventy five years ago "everyone" knew what Nash Buckingham's HE Fox was up to. In the 1920s these guns were state of the art. My old gun and another HE Fox that lives in my smalll town spend quality time along the banks of the Snake River. The last three weeks of pheasant season my old gun was still state of the art (wild birds and long range). My HE Fox was still up to the task.
David
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 7:42 am
by eightbore
David, much as I love my old Super Fox, if I'm going to carry a nine pound gun on a pheasant hunt, it will be a ten bore. I wonder if anyone has ever bored the chambers on a Super Fox to accept ten gauge shells? Murphy
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:58 pm
by loggy
David, I also enjoy shooting an occaisional pheasant with a Super Fox. Some days I just like to go for a walk with a nice gun. There was an article in DGJ by Tom Kidd called 'The Heavyweights" that talked about Super Foxes. He seemed to think there were more graded guns around and possibly more HE's (if my memory serves me correctly)
than most people believe. It would be nice to compile a list by serial number of known guns along with any other available information. I keep chasing Becker information and would like to add to that list as well. Maybe some day the Fox cards will wind up someplace like Cody and the data for all guns can be compiled. John