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utica barrel crown

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:30 pm
by arkrunner
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Did the Utica guns have this unfinished crowns?
Im going to look at this gun later this week

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:35 pm
by FoxintheHenHouse
No Fox factory finished gun, whether Phila or Utica, would have a muzzle leaving the factory like this. Barrels are not crowned and no keels in place. Recessed solder to boot.

FoxintheHenHouse

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:38 pm
by arkrunner
Thank was afraid of that

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:44 am
by Silvers
The early Fox/Phila graded guns often had a heavily rounded edge on the outside of the muzzles, not into the bores. Chamfer might be good word to describe it. Later guns both Phila and Fox/Utica were more or less square with a slight perceptible rounding. It's hard to judge from just one pic and without the gun in hand, but that muzzle looks like Utica factory to me except that the steel keels are pushed in. IME that wouldn't be a show stopper if the gun looks good otherwise and it's priced right for its configuration. The trick will be, to remove the keels without getting one or the other one loose and caught in the space between the barrels where it might rattle. Then replace with new steel and chem treat to look aged. That's if you value originality. Otherwise I'd solder over the keels and finish off ~square. Any competent SxS barrel man should be able to do either without affecting the ribs or damaging the bluing.

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:55 am
by fullchoke16
Is it just the angle or is the bead set off center?

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:47 am
by eightbore
Whether or not the gun is original or cut can be determined by measuring the chokes and bores and/or ordering a Callahan letter.

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:45 pm
by arkrunner
Was for sale on gunbroker

Re: utica barrel crown

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:19 pm
by Wenaha
Lots of variation in barrel wall thickness at the muzzle, at least. Looks like it was filed up, struck, and finished in a hurry.