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does anyone see philly guns with savage era stocks? when did the transition period start?

Show us a picture of your example, Is the gun a Sterlingworth or a higher grade?

it will be here Friday. I bought it as a hunting gun so this that and the other really don't matter, but the savage era stock looks kike it has never been separated from the metal. it has a pad, and the philly barrels had a middle bead. lop is 15" plus a little. stock has not been cut I don't think. philly barrels, receiver, forearm. savage sterlingworth stock. made in 1928. serial number 119447. i'll post a pic when it comes in.i figured someone may have had it restocked from the factory between 1930 and 1940. you cant put a hair between the metal and the stock anywhere. it has that look when metal and wood have been together forever if yall know what I mean. oh .. its a sterlingworth..

Over the last 50 years we've seen just about every combination possible. I've seen a Philadelphia era receivers that were restocked and rebarreled by Savage. Philadelphia era guns that were reproofed by Savage and restocked by Savage. And, then there is the Dr. Brown AE-Grade that was started in Philadelphia in the 1920s to be an XE-Grade but was finished up by Savage as an AE-Grade, and shipped about 1940. Dr. Brown's gun was written up in The Double Gun Journal.

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I have a Savage AE that was shipped to A&F in 1940. The serial numbers date to early 1920's. It has the rebated frame. The serial number is very close to an XE that changed hands recently. I'm guessing that a group of rebated frames with forend irons were fitted and set aside waiting for X-F orders.

Does anyone know what issue of DGJ features the Dr. Brown gun referenced above. Thanks. Bill

Bill, your AE with rebated frame sounds like a very nice gun. Jim

I'm back at Newman Lake and near my research materials. Dr. Brown's 1940 AE-Grade is serial number 31635 and the article is in The Double Gun Journal, Volume Twelve, Issue 4, Winter 2001. Same issue as the "not the Czar's" Parker.

Thanks for the DGJ reference Researcher. I will locate a copy of that issue. This AE's frame is rebated and carved. The serial numbers on the frame and forend are 1920's vintage and in the AH Fox fonts. The barrel numbers are Savage fonts. The frame is stamped in the Savage style "AE grade". The safety is Savage style.