Extractors to Ejectors?

[Clarence Kavanaugh]

Is it possible to retrofit ejectors on a originally extractor Sterlingworth?

If so what is needed to accomplish this and/or does anyone know of a gunsmith that is capable of making this conversions?

[Researcher]

Sure. And, I'd bet Larry Schuknecht could do it. Would it be economically reasonable? I really doubt it. You'd need a complete ejector forearm, the split ejectors to replace the one-piece extractor, possibly a new forearm loop on the barrels, and the trip parts that replace the plugs in the front of the receivers of extractor guns.

[MARSHFELLOW]

I know little to nothing about the gunsmithing involved but I think all the original parts are available.

tjw

[MilRob]

I would think it could be done but you would be much better off just buying an ejector gun.

[Clarence Kavanaugh]

I would think it could be done but you would be much better off just buying an ejector gun.

My question is in concerning a purchase that I made in what I thought I was a "Super Nice" Sterlingworth 20ga. Brush model that I bought back in January on GunBroker.com, but the seller sold me a gun that is at best a high price wall hanger.

The action and wood is in fair shape but the barrels are unsafe to use the gun. With bulges in both barrels, numerous dents and deep pitting in the barrels where I'm concern even if say Briley could pound out the bulges and dents, the thickness wouldn't be enough to hone both barrels where they're safe.

Before any of you state it. I've been told that I should just part the gun out and try and get back some of the money back. Yes, I have filed a "Defraud Report" with GunBroker but the best I can expect is $500 which isn't even half of the price I paid for the gun. Going after the guy legally (I will be exploring the Mail Fraud angle seeing that it was ship across state lines) would be throwing good money after bad so I just plan to cut some of my lost and try to make lemonade out of the lemon that I was handed.

I've been wanting a custom gun for awhile and while this would be expensive and eliminate any collectors value, I could get the gun that I wanted even though it may take years to realize.

My thought is to first send it to Briley (per Turnbull) to have the tubes cut off the mono block and have shorter (24" inch Skeet/Lt. Modified) barrels installed. Next would be to find a gunsmith capable to retrofit ejectors in the Sterlingworth. Then after saving (and playing) for awhile, send it off to Turnbull to have the gun upgraded to a DE Fox.

Oh by the way before I forget to mention the guy that sold me this "Super Nice" Sterlingworth is listed on GunBroker.com as: buck39 out of Lindale, Georgia

[TOOL MAN]

Ugggghhhh. I feel your pain Clarence. However, I too would have to agree on what your were told. Part it out, try to reclaim a fraction from the fraud angle and file it under "painful lesson learned." I'm assuming this dude did not offer a 3-day, non-shooting inspection, correct? That is at the very least, the SOP (standard operating procedure) with any gun transaction in the double gun realm and I have heard/seen many 5-day inspection periods. If you don't see that clearly stated, then ask. If it's not offered, usually a flashing red sign appears, displaying "Caveat Emptor" the Latin root of which means: " place said gun 3 ft up your knickers....or in cinema speak........ "Run Forrest............runnnnnnnnn." ------TOOL

[Clarence Kavanaugh]

Ugggghhhh. I feel your pain Clarence. However, I too would have to agree on what your were told. Part it out, try to reclaim a fraction from the fraud angle and file it under "painful lesson learned." I'm assuming this dude did not offer a 3-day, non-shooting inspection, correct? That is at the very least, the SOP (standard operating procedure) with any gun transaction in the double gun realm and I have heard/seen many 5-day inspection periods. If you don't see that clearly stated, then ask. If it's not offered, usually a flashing red sign appears, displaying "Caveat Emptor" the Latin root of which means: " place said gun 3 ft up your knickers....or in cinema speak........ "Run Forrest............runnnnnnnnn." ------TOOL

Unfortunately for me, I waited a couple of weeks to pick up the gun seeing I had another one on the way and only wanted to make one trip. I also have to admit that the guy did have a "No Return" on the auction which if gun was as discribed and I bought it with all the flaws I wouldn't have had a problem with it, and shame on me for being stupid. But when I seen what I received and it wasn't anything akin to "Super Nice," I shot a email to the guy informing him that I gave him one week to contact me. I also follow up the email with 3 phone calls to him, spread out through that week trying to contact someone. When I didn't get a respond, I gave the guy negative feedback and followed up with another email explaining what I did, that I had proof that he mislead me on the condition of the Sterlingworth and what I expected to happen.

I went back into his feedback looking for any negative feedback. Though not many (7 at the time), I found that of course it was always the other guy's fault for everything. I've seen negative feedback on other auctions that I've won before so it didn't bother me when I place my bid, but I guess I should have clued in on his last negative feedback when he listed a 16 gauge as a 20 and keep $50 bucks of the guys money even though it was his mistake.

Before I go to far, prior to me placing my bid I sent the guy a email asking if there was any pitting, dents or wobble to the barrels. I was informed that there was a couple of dents, no pitting and no wobble. The dents I didn't care to much about as most of all the guns I have boughten off of GunBroker that were discribed as having dents were minor impressions that you had to look really hard for to see, but not on this one. In addition, I got the surprise of 2 bulges approximately 11" to 12" inches down from the breech of both barrels that were never disclosed.

Let me start off by saying sorry for the quality of these pictures as they were taken with a cell phone camera.

The first two pictures are of the bores after I ran a couple patches with solvent down both bores letting them set for a good 10 minutes, then ran a brush no less then 50 times down each just to make sure that what I was looking at wasn't fouling. And yes I did run dry patches down each until I got no more residue.




The next two are of the bulges in each barrel. You will notice them just above my thumb and forefinger.




And last two are of the so discribed couple of dents.




In addition to this the barrel does wobble but you have to take the forearm off which apparently either he didn't do or didn't think I was smart enough to know.

Anyway after I sent the guy the second email the real fun began. He immediately got back to me on that one, and I was told that I was SCUM for apparently leaving negative feedback after giving him only a week to get ahold of me. Somehow a "claimed" family emergencies was the reason (how convenient) for his lack of timely response. After several exchanges he never denied that he misrepresented the Sterlingworth, he also thought for some reason that I would just send the gun back before I receiving my money something about he needed to inspect it. Right! I could only imagine where that would have gone, but I'm willing to bet I would have been the one that bulged the barrels, dented them and somehow pitted them in a few short weeks. Good thing that I had a FFL on my end to witness the mess that I received.

I originally bought this Sterlingworth Brush to pair up with my Sterlingworth Field (rated right around 90% to 93% percent) so I would have a short to long combo depending on what I was doing. But I guess that will have to wait now.

[MilRob]

I am guessing you are the one on shotgunworld that posted about this gun. I think you only have a couple of options. Sell it for parts or find a 20 ga barrel set and have it fitted. Sleeving is a min of 1700-2000 and with that gun i dont think it is worth it at that price.