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Question about high grade Fox guns
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:24 pm
by Theprofessional
I read that someone at the Vintagers was going to show the only G grade made. Is that the one that Savage made and had engraved in Germany?
How much would a monster like that run someone or at auction?
Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:27 pm
by Researcher
There was a supposed Fox "G" pictured in Don Hardin's article on Ansley H. Fox in The Gun Digest, 40th Edition, 1986, pages 97 to 100. That "G" is attributed to a gun dealer from Texas with the initials H.C., so who knows?!?
Having seen the Savage-era gun in a couple of its various stocks I can't imagine it would bring as much as the most recent stock job cost!! I can't picture why anyone would want it.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:12 pm
by Theprofessional
It's still considered a "G" regardless of who made it right?
I thought that anything of that nature, being a Fox, would be a lot of money for those (me NOT included) who can afford it.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:38 pm
by Researcher
No.
The G-Grade was only listed in the price lists from 1922 to 1930. From 1922 to 1925 the price was Jobber $740, Dealer $938 and retail $1100. From 1926 to 1930 the price was still Jobber $740, but dropped to Dealer $864 and Retail $1026. So, in my mind something cobbled together in the 1950s well after regular Fox production had ceased certainly does't measure up.
Last I knew neither Roe Clark nor John Callahan had ever come across a "G" production card while searching the records.
My gut feeling, with absolutely no basis in fact, has always been that the GE-Grade listing in the price lists was a fishing expedition on AHFGCo.'s part, and if anyone did inquire, they unloaded or attempted to unload a "Gough Raised Gold Special" left over from the 1915 Panama-Pacific Exposition.
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:56 am
by eightbore
When I was a pup, in the sixties, Norman Strebe showed me graded Foxes that he had put together from parts from the stash he ended up with when he bought a truckload or more of Fox and other surplus parts from Savage. Even as a young kid, I realized that the guns were poorly fitted, poorly stocked, you name it. However, as the years have gone by, I'm sure those guns have improved quite a bit in the hands of gunsmiths more talented than my old friend Norman.