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12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:17 pm
by jolly bill
In the AHFCA Events section there was brief discussion and a few pictures of a very nice 12 gauge CE grade that Loggy acquired at the Las Vegas gun show this past weekend. Along with the gun was a very nice assortment of tags, work order cards, etc. that I think most of us have never seen.

Looks to be built as a Live Bird Gun with no Safety, straight grip, ejectors, 30 inch barrels choked Full and Full and very nice shooting dimensions. Gun has serial number 16325 and was shipped June 10, 1910 according to the factory work order card.

Loggy graciously offered to have pictures posted for all to view so he sent me the pictures and I have copied them below.

Pretty neat gun. Thanks Loggy.

Jolly

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Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 am
by MARSHFELLOW
........thanks Loggy & Jolly for getting those on there for us. Nice piece!

tjw

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:54 am
by eightbore
That work card is a piece of work. Thanks for the pictures. Murphy

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:31 am
by 3birddogs
Kind of ironic, the man who ordered the gun was named Parker.

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:08 am
by loggy
Maybe he was an outcast of the Parker clan. I haven't been able to find out much about him. There was an ER Parker listed as a participant in a rifle match about that time. My son found one in the Carolina's about 1914. The gun was built for a specific purpose and apparently never shot much. My photos washed out the color on the metal. It is actually about 99 percent there. The top lever is farther to the right than any of my other guns. I would appreciate any other information that any of you may have. Thanks. John

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:16 pm
by eightbore
Not so ironic, actually. Ansley Fox shot a Parker.

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:05 pm
by TOOL MAN
LOGGY,

Great gun and that production workflow card is AWESOME!!! My God, the initials of every craftsman involved and the time it took to complete each step. What a FOX treasure and a glimpse into the window of N. 18th and Windram!!!!! Unlike the Parker factory in Meriden, we know so damn little about the masters who produced the objects of our desire. Congrats.-----TOOLMAN

PS----and yes, nothing tickles me more than a Parker guy buying a FOX!!!!!! Every once in a while, a few of them actually "get it" !!!!!

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:01 pm
by loggy
TOOLMAN,
I was also very excited to find it with the gun. A special thanks to Jolly Bill for making it available on the website.
John

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:05 pm
by mike campbell
Everything on that workcard is intuitive to me, except the second step..."bucking."

Whassat?

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:11 pm
by loggy
Mike, I have looked through my books and google and can't find the term. I emailed Stephen Dodd Hughes and he is not familiar with this word as a gun making term. Hopefully someone will have an answer. John

Re: 12 Gauge CE Live Bird Gun

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:04 am
by OH Osthaus
a "bucking" bar supports the inside of a tube when installing rivets - I wonder if there was a step in the barrel joining that required similar internal support