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Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:06 pm
by IMSports007
I was left a gun in a will from my grandfather. He was born and raised in Virginia. I've attached a picture. The gun has the serial # 296# and is a double barrel shotgun. It looks like an "A" model?
Any ideas on where I can identify more info on the gun?
Also on the inside, it's stamped "Krupp fluid steel made by A.H. Fox Gun Co. Phila, PA
On the barrell, it says, "Fluid Steel Krupp Lightweight Barrel"
Under patent info, it has" Pat'd Aug 1 1905 Oct .17, 1905 - Jan 16, 1906"
It says Ansley H. Fox on the side.
Thanks in advance!
Michael
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:26 pm
by George Lander
Michael: I would order a research letter from Mr. Callahan on your gun. that will tell you a lot and also who the gun was shipped to from Fox.
Best Regards, George
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:23 pm
by Researcher
There are no records for a gun that early. I've never seen a gun with Krupp "lightweight barrels". Would like to see some close up photos of all these markings. I've seen several early Ansley H. Fox 12-gauge doubles with Krupp "heavyweight barrels".
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:29 pm
by IMSports007
Researcher,
What's your email and I'll send you some pictures.
Thanks,
Michael
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:34 pm
by Researcher
Send then to
AHFCA@comcast.net
My bit in the upcoming issue of the A.H. Fox Collectors Association Newsletter covers the first couple of years of the A.H. Fox Gun Co. The time frame when your gun was made.
Thanks
Dave
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:45 pm
by IMSports007
Pictures sent...
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:45 pm
by Researcher
Michael sent me some pictures, and it appears he has an interesting old gun. It is certainly a 1906 vintage gun as shown by the Patent Date markings --
It appears to my eyes that the gun was back to the factory, probably in the 1920s, and got a Fox-Kautzky single selective trigger and very possibly the beavertail forearm. Neither were available in 1906.
I'd like to see several more good pictures of the beavertail forearm, inside and out, before we make a call as to whether it is factory work or not.
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:59 pm
by IMSports007
More pics sent. Thanks again for the information.
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:13 pm
by George Lander
Beavertail is the large flat forearm that resembles a Beaver's tail that wraps part of the way around the barrels as opposed to a splinter forearm which is much narrower.
Best Regards, George
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:58 am
by MARSHFELLOW
Thanks George.
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:26 am
by Researcher
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:22 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Researcher,
Thanks for sharing the pix.....I tend to agree with you.......still a little iffy....better than most.
tjw
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:45 pm
by eightbore
Hey, a three digit Fox with a Kautsky trigger is an interesting gun, regardless of a blacksmith forend. Great old gun.
Re: Help on Identifying Gun
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:11 am
by IMSports007
For insurance purposes, what should I value the gun at? Anybody?