Photo's of an original 20 Ga Ejector SW beavertail

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Photo's of an original 20 Ga Ejector SW beavertail

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Mentioned in earlier posts, but a few photos:

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I'll post more once I get the gun back from the shop.

Specs are 26" ejector SW, Beavertail, twin ivory beads. Min Barrel Wall thickness .028. Circa 6 pounds.
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Post by ROMAC »

Congratulations on the 20 gauge. I saw that gun before you bought it but was on my way out the door to catch a plane to Bermuda. I just chalked it up to a serious case of bad timing for me. I wrote it off to just one of those things.

I easily spent more on dinners and drinks for the week with the wifey. That was a great find on your part.
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It was an interesting situation. The fellow who had it didn't know if it was an ejector gun. The only picture he had posted on line was a profile picture. Thus I only knew it was 20 gauge and a beavertail, but nothing else. I got his phone number and called him promptly and asked him it he could ring the barrels (he had no idea what I was talking about) but I walked him through that on the phone and it passed. By that time he had send me a few better photo's and I saw it had the ejector anchor on the forearm. Wanted to confirm it wasn't a put together thing, so I had him take off the barrels and read all the serial numbers to me and they matched up. Finally asked if he could see if it was an ejector or and extractor and he didn't know exactly what to look for and I walked him through that. After all of that passed muster we agreed to meet and settled on a price even before I had seen the gun. I give him credit, he was offered more to sell it to others later, but he said I was the first in que willing to lay out money so I ended up with it. Have to admit Pa is different then Va. He showed me the gun in the parking lot of a Hess Gas station and we did the deal there. I waited long enough to check the bore condition and choke measurements before I opened the wallet. I did well, but I think he turned a nice profit on the exchange. This one is a keeper for me. I can see myself pulling it out of the case on the dove season opener in Va. A little tight for the old waterhole, but there's enough long shots where that full/mod chokes can reach out.
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Hi,
I'm a new member, just started looking, and reading the forum. I came across your gun. I've got a SW 20 ga. , 26", Brush Ejector gun. I had it lettered, is yours? My letter states mine was shipped on 6/23/1933 to Abercrombie & Fitch. The serial # on my gun is 271104. Not that far off from yours. But like yours mine has the later style Savage stock and barrels maked Proofed for 2 3/4" Shells. I didn't think they started stamping the barrels and changing the stock style to the later Savage years (mid to late 30's). I've got a SW Brush Deluxe that I had lettered also, serial #: 270762. Same style stock, barrel markings, and it states it shipped 4/8/1936. Any idea's??? All numbers match on both guns.
Thx,
Alan
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Post by jolly bill »

Alan,

I checked the SN 271104 of your 20 Gauge Sterlingworth Ejector Brush with Griffin and Howe who has the old A&F records. Your gun is listed in the A&F records just like your Callahan letter states.
If you've got an extra 50 bucks and want Bob Beach at G&H to do a Research letter for your gun, you might find the info very interesting.
I had them do a Research letter on a graded 12 gauge Fox and got a whole mess of info on when, the cost, who bought it and when and how much plus a mess of info on the man who bought the gun. He sent me a colored copy of the inventory page the gun was on. That page listed about another 25 Fox's with the last 2 digits of SN removed.
I have no connection with G&H but just passing along the info in case you weren't aware of the G&H letters.
If you do get a G&H letter and you find out some neat stuff, we'd probably like to hear about it.

The link to G&H Research Letters: http://www.griffinhowe.com/research-main.cfm

Jolly
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Jolly,
Thanks!!! My main puzzle was how two of my guns I had lettered that the one with the latest serial # was shipped 3 years earlier than the other. Thanks for G&H link also. Is that good for just guns shipped from Abercrombie & Fitch or on any Fox's? I've got another 20 ga. that was lettered I'm looking for more info. on that shipped to Sloans Sporting Goods. It is a late Savage gun.
Thx. again!!!
Alan
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Alan,

The G&H Research letters are only good for Fox's, and other makers, who sold a specific gun. Their web site shows all the various manufactures and you can plug in a serial number and if they have a record for it, it will indicate so. They had info on a pretty unique Winchester model 61 I have from 1933.

Not unusual to find Fox's, other makers also, shipping guns with near serial numbers being shipped years apart.

Sloan's I think was a common buyer of Fox guns. Not sure where they were located but I wouldn't be surprised if Researcher knows who they were.

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Jolly,
If you can get on to the "members forum" I posted a question tonight about when 2 3/4" chambers for 20 ga.s started and when did they started putting that on the barrels. Read the reply. The gun we are talking about above has the roll stamp on the left barrel and it letters in 1933 in both sets of records. What you think???
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LVAKA362,

Could you post some pictures or email me some of 271104? That is the highest 20-gauge Fox-Sterlingworth serial number I've recorded to date.

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Dave

P.S. When I have some time I'll look up where Sloans was located.
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Post by lee r moege »

Sloan's was located in Ridgefield, Conn, and had a store in New York also. I have some old American Rifleman magazines from the early/middle 50's with adds for Sloan's. If my memory is correct they were absorbed by one of the large sporting goods retailers in the East in the early 60's and it bells in at Hy Hunter or Ye Old Hunter. I have a M-21 that letters to Sloan's in Conneticut in 1941. Lee! :)
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Dave,
I'll take some pic.s of my SW Brush Ejector 20 ga. and email them to you. Just read this post today. Will probably be able to do that later. Haven't yet figured out how to post pic.s onto the forum. Any help with that will be appericated.
Thx,
Alan
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Dave,
Took some pic.s this afternoon an emailed them to you of my Ejector 20 ga. If a gun was sent back to the factory for repairs or upgrades are they any records any where of that?
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Alan
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LVAKA362 wrote:Hi,
I'm a new member, just started looking, and reading the forum. I came across your gun. I've got a SW 20 ga. , 26", Brush Ejector gun. I had it lettered, is yours? My letter states mine was shipped on 6/23/1933 to Abercrombie & Fitch. The serial # on my gun is 271104. Not that far off from yours. But like yours mine has the later style Savage stock and barrels maked Proofed for 2 3/4" Shells. I didn't think they started stamping the barrels and changing the stock style to the later Savage years (mid to late 30's). I've got a SW Brush Deluxe that I had lettered also, serial #: 270762. Same style stock, barrel markings, and it states it shipped 4/8/1936. Any idea's??? All numbers match on both guns.
Thx,
Alan
Sorry, haven't logged on in a long long time. I did not get a letter on mine, but I think I will go ahead and order one. It isn't in the A&F data base. Mine is not marked for 2 3/4" shells.
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Post by LVAKA362 »

I did get some pic.s of mine posted. They are under the "Highest 20 ga. SW Recorded" just below this posting. I sent off for a couple of more letters and ask John to recheck the records on mine 271104. Just don't think it could be a 1933 style gun. Once I get that info. back I'll let everyone know what i find out.
Thx,
Alan
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