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DS Grade
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:36 pm
by lbleighton
I'm trying to find a ball park value for a DS Grade Ainsley Fox 12g. Serial # 7499, 32" barrel, DT, extractor. This gun has been completely restored to perfection by Turnbull.
Any ideas??
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:01 pm
by eightbore
Is that a D Grade?
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:22 pm
by lbleighton
No- absolutely DS Grade[/b]
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:38 pm
by birdawg
Can you give us more info such as the markings on the action flats? Possible aa D Special?
thanks
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:11 am
by mike campbell
lbleighton wrote:No- absolutely DS Grade[/b]
and absolutely "Ainsley" Fox? ...no chance of a typo anywhere?
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:34 am
by birdawg
We could give you more info about your gun if you could post some photos, While DS is not one of the normal grades we do have guns that are CS, Many of the early guns were graded Special on some records with the normal graded engraving, wood and other embellishments.
It sound like you have a unique piece, I hope we have a chance to see the gun.
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:00 am
by lbleighton
Thank you for your responses. I do not have the gun here at the moment but should be able to retrieve it tomorrow. I will post pictures then, and give more information.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:21 pm
by lbleighton
Okay- I have the gun. And thanks to some misinformation from my husband who was confusing it with a Lefever DS Grade he just acquired some of the info I supplied was NOT correct.
It is an Ansley H. Fox, A Grade. 32" barrels, DT, 12g. S# 7499.It has been completely restored to perfect condition by Turnbull. Barrels reblued, new stock and forend, case colored, and has not been fired since the work was done. The barrels are stamped underneath "fluid steel- krupp-esson" and have the serial # stamped so I would have to assume they are the original barrels. I don't have a choke gauge here but I think I did mic them at the gun store I work at a while ago and I think they are quite tight.
Any ideas as to value? I would be happy to supply pictures if I can figure out how to post them.
Sorry for the confusion!![/img]
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:48 pm
by eightbore
Even refinished, an early A with 32" barrels is quite interesting to the readers of this forum. With no issues, a Turnbull refinished gun as you describe that was not in too bad a condition before refinishing could be worth around two thousand or a bit less. Any issues and it goes down in a hurry.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:31 pm
by Fox-Events
An important watchout - there is a fine line between asking for the value of a gun, and subtly advertising it for sale, which is not permitted except for members in our Member's Forum. We have full faith you are asking for the former and remind all readers that any offers of sale or purchase via our PM function are inappropriate.
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 3:58 pm
by lbleighton
I am not trying to sell this gun through this forum!! Just trying to get some idea of worth. I know the work by Turnbull was very expensive and not sure how much value it would have added to the gun.
Thanks for any info!
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:40 pm
by APS
Is this the gun on Safari Outfitters site?
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 8:34 pm
by NJdblgun
Early A grade with 32" barrels? Yes, pictures please; sounds nice with Turnbull restoration. Thx
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:04 am
by George Lander
Ibleighton: I don't believe that anyone here thought that were trying to sell the Fox. I read your posts as merely asking for information. BTW the barrels should read"krupp-essen"
Best Regards, George
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:39 am
by eightbore
The Safari Outfitters gun is very nice and probably worth the money but it has a fatal flaw. The chokes have been opened to IC and MOD. Doug Turnbull studies different types and eras of case coloring and tries to duplicate it, usually quite faithfully. Early A Grades with high percentages of case colors are hard to find and not everyone knows what they are supposed to look like. The "early A" is colored with a vivid but quite transparent case hardening with almost a glassy look to it. It is very hard to duplicate, and the Safari Outfitters gun gets the vivid part right, maybe a bit too well, but not the glassy transparent look. Niles and Doug are my friends and I don't mean this as a criticism, but I would like to hear other opinions and maybe a better description of the "look" of the early A case colors.