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Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:33 pm
by Bear
I have recently acquired a very early Philadelphia Fox AE Grade with a factory kautzky single trigger sn21402. The gun was meticulously upgraded to its current "FE Special" configuration. I'm interested in finding out who the owner was who had this upgrade completed and who the craftsmen were who performed this unbelievable upgrade. Any information would be appreciated. The gun has a straight grip stock, extra dark exhibition grade circassian walnut (not Turkish). Fully engraved skeletonized butt plate with perfectly time screws, fine scroll, and exacting gold work. Thanks for any responses. Bear
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:21 pm
by Stan Hillis
Pics would increase your chances of getting pertinent information immensely.
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:05 am
by 44whiskey
yes please post pics
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:21 pm
by eightbore
Yup. Pictures.
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:01 am
by 44whiskey
WOW beautiful work. thank you for pics ps any shots of bottom frame
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:53 am
by vaturkey
Someone dropped some coin on that one. Hard to believe the engraver didn't sign it somewhere. Check around the bottom of the frame near the triggerguard.
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:02 am
by Foxnut
Looks like a beautiful gun! I’m w/Tom…some serious money was spent on the upgrade. Could you post pics of the stock so we can see the pattern and checkering? Thnx!
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:41 pm
by Jeff S
Beautiful gun, and exceptional pictures.
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:16 am
by Double O
Absolutely love it!
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:56 am
by eightbore
No engraver's signature suggests that this may be one of the wonderful fakes (not upgrades) marketed by Tom Gibbons, often represented as originals. The identity of his workmen is probably known by some collectors, but not me.
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 1:02 pm
by 44whiskey
eightbore wrote:No engraver's signature suggests that this may be one of the wonderful fakes (not upgrades) marketed by Tom Gibbons, often represented as originals. The identity of his workmen is probably known by some collectors, but not me.
is grade mark present on watertable and or barrels thanks
Re: Upgrade of Philadelphia AE Grade Fox 12 Gauge
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2021 2:37 pm
by Researcher
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

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Not that we haven't seen the same thing out of engravers from North 18th Street and Windrim Avenue.