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Any owners of a Fox with original swivels out there?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 1:19 pm
by Foxhound
Looking at a Fox with swivels. Any way to know if they are original? Any pictures to post?
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:52 pm
by eightbore
Members of PGCA own Parkers that have swivels that they suspect are original to the guns. Order records of those guns, so far, are not available. There are similarly Parker order book entries that mention swivels being installed at the factory on Parker guns. As with the Parker owners, Fox owners will have to keep looking for a gun with swivels to be coupled with an order card that mentions the factory installation of such swivels. So far, I have not seen a gun with such provenance, Parker or Fox.
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:16 pm
by bbman3
I have a 16 AE that i believe has original factory sling swivels but never have gotten letter on it. I bought a CE 20 for $325 in late 60s and it had holes for the swivels but they were gone.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:52 am
by eightbore
I sure would like to see the order card for that AE 16.
Fox with swivels
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:10 pm
by cargie32
They did come with swivels, I have #26060 which cards with swivels.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:59 pm
by MARSHFELLOW
Cargie32,
Thats good to know....I never saw one I felt was right with swivels. Could you post or email me a pic of the forward swivel/loop...I'd like to see what it looks like. Thanks, Tom
swivels
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:34 pm
by cargie32
Marshfellow: Sorry can't as swivels have been removed. Card calls for swivels and strap.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:03 pm
by Foxhound
Saw this gun on Gunbroker and wondered if the swivels looked factory to anybody. Maybe the factory card could be checked. Gunbroker #123880636. Gun is listed as an H grade with single trigger and ejectors. Serial number 31010.
Gun is not mine and I have no interest in the sale.
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:38 pm
by bbman3
Swivels that came off my 16AE are in shop and it is dark and finally raining here. I remember that the front swivel just has a stud that screws into hole in bottom rib. I might can get someone to take pictures but i have no letter on the gun. Bobby
"H", #31010
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:37 pm
by cargie32
Foxhound, that gun orig. came with 32" bbls, now has 30" "A" bbls???
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:42 pm
by eightbore
Cargie, how about giving us the full order card info on this HE so we can get into a bidding frenzy. The starting bid is easy enough.
"H" #31010
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:45 pm
by cargie32
Okay here it comes, 32" bbls, comb 1 5/8", heel 2 5/8", stock 13 1/4", wt. 8-4 to 8-8, bbls F & F, grip full pistol-Monte carlo and cheek piece XE grade, stock & forend-2 lyman sights,2 lyman sights-chamber for 3" shells, single trigger, card indicates infro on back side but do not have that infro. Have at it and may the best man win!!!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:14 pm
by fox-admin
8lbs 4oz to 8lbs 8oz that's almost a pound lighter than most Super Foxes. There are a few that are in that range, I wonder if this gun was built on the larger frame? A regular 12ga 32" gun with #1 barrels and MC stock would be very close to 8lbs 4ozs. ??? It would be interesting to measure the frame. The full weight Super Fox frames I have measured are 2 15/32" across the breech face, a standard 12 ga is 2 5/16".