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Jeff S wrote:On my way home from Hausmann's, I stopped at the Cabrela's in Dundee, MI. In the showcase I noticed a Fox Grade J trap gun with a very unfortunate stock. Maybe someone some one could get this gun acquainted with the letterman stock.
Hey Jeff,
You might consider a single shot shotgun for your duck hunting expeditions with your Dad and Nephew.
As per your very neat article in the Fox Newsletter, one shot would work out just fine for you.
Great article by the way and sure hope you three do it again this coming season in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
I saw that Fox w/o any numbers/markings and my thought was maybe it was a demo? OR, maybe an "employee special", sold to one of the employees at the factory?
Mike of the Mountain wrote:BTW, Jeff, I had a blast shooting with you Thursday!! Thanks for playing.
today
I shot a round of clays today without my mentor (Mike) and did quite poorly. I did okay at trap (23), but I clearly cannot shoot clays without Mike's guidance.
The Fox single at Cabela's is not a very good buy at $3495.00 needing a $2000.00 stock. Have you caught the Fox shotguns for sale on their website that state "Gauge cannot be determined, not marked."? Those guys are asleep at the wheel and still drawing a paycheck.
I didn't take any pictures from directly overhead to show how the rib joins the receiver, but got some different angled closeups as shown below. One thing that jumped out at me was the semi-elliptical 3/4 sphere of striped wood at the very rear of the checkering on the cheek panels. It struck me as spookily similar to the engraved "fan" of nearly identical shape on the side panels of the D-grade guns that appears towards the rear of the receiver as it joins the face of the stock. Agree with Dave about the checkering pattern(s) being a mix of the X-grade fleur-de-lis "points", but also notice the rounded orb carved & checked at the very end (base) of the pattern - this is nearly identical to some of the very early Parker Bros. graded hammer gun stock checkering patterns done during the ""clamshell" finishing of the ball grips of the early hammer guns. Finally, we laid this stock side by side with a minty F-grade stock Gary Herman had for sale and the pattern and layout matched almost identically. Some shots not in the best of focus but you get the idea......Kevin
The way the leading edge of the checkering panel is at an angle, rather then parallel with, the rear of the frame, leads me to think this stock may have been a take off from another gun and then fitted to this frame. I kind of see that checkering pattern as an evolutionary step from the 1913 D-/DE-Grade checkering to the later DE-Grade checkering.
The tangs should have been bent to make the checkering on the cheeks match properly with the receiver. Of course, in that time, the angle of the cheek checkering took a back seat to getting the stock on the gun.
Dave, a number of people advanced the same theory regarding the stock. In addition, Frank examined the milling cuts on the barrel flats under high magnification and pointed out some anomalies, probably resulting from refitting, supporting the notion several of us had that the barrels had come from another gun. Barrel length at 27 5/8 inches was another wild card; barrels engraved with the pure B grade pattern at the breech ends.
