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Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:46 am
by MARSHFELLOW
aspeck,
nice of you to share the card.
tjw
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:54 am
by fox-admin
To answer your original question, what is value of my gun. The gun is a very interesting special ordered Fox but it suffers greatly from a poor refinish (as opposed to professional restoration in my opinion). So most collector interest is greatly reduced, it is an interesting shooter. Realistically, sold direct to a non-dealer my guess is $1800 to $2400. Hope this helps.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:11 am
by aspeck
fox-admin wrote:To answer your original question, what is value of my gun. The gun is a very interesting special ordered Fox but it suffers greatly from a poor refinish (as opposed to professional restoration in my opinion). So most collector interest is greatly reduced, it is an interesting shooter. Realistically, sold direct to a non-dealer my guess is $1800 to $2400. Hope this helps.
That helps a lot. Thank-you.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:16 am
by aspeck
MARSHFELLOW wrote:aspeck,
nice of you to share the card.
tjw
Well, so many of you gave so much good information and were interested in the grade verses the engraving that I figured you deserved to see what I saw. It is a shame it was refinished, but it is still a very good looking gun. Now to see what the owner wants me to do with it. If she is going to keep it as a family heirloom or if she is going to look for a new home for it.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:26 am
by Researcher
That seems extremely odd to me that someone wanted a gun bored for extreme long range shooting weighing only 6 pounds 13 ounces and targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce loads. Our North American ammunition companies were offering lots of 12-gauge 1 1/4 ounce loads, powered by up to 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder such as Infallible or Ballistite, at the time this gun was ordered.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:13 pm
by Jeff S
I hate to ask what might seem like a stupid question, but what's the difference between a B upgraded to a C, and an actual C? Is there a little difference in the wood?
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:48 am
by Mills
Very interesting gun. Thanks for sharing with us
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 10:41 am
by Researcher
what's the difference between a B upgraded to a C, and an actual C?
The quality of the wood, perhaps a bit of difference in the fit and finish, a somewhat different checkering pattern probably two lines per inch coarser.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:03 am
by Jeff S
Thanks Dave.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:55 pm
by Mike of the Mountain
Aspeck, very nice looking Fox. Due to the different "bluing" done, it wouldn't be a gun for a "collector" but would be a great gun for a shooter. It is a little different than the factory original guns, but as a shooter, different is not always bad. BTW, sorry for the loss of your friend.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:56 pm
by Mike of the Mountain
Researcher wrote:That seems extremely odd to me that someone wanted a gun bored for extreme long range shooting weighing only 6 pounds 13 ounces and targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce loads. Our North American ammunition companies were offering lots of 12-gauge 1 1/4 ounce loads, powered by up to 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder such as Infallible or Ballistite, at the time this gun was ordered.
Dave, maybe the original purchaser was a "visionary"??
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 2:32 pm
by Researcher
I got to thinking after I wrote that that those are about the loads A.H. Fox Gun Co. recommended in their 1914 "Fox Gets the Game" catalog --
Early hang tags show A.H. Fox Gun Co. 12-gauges targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce No. 8 loads. By 1916 hang tags they were being targeted with 3 1/8 dram, 1 1/4 ounce of 7 1/2, a popular trap load up to April 1940 when the ATA imposed a 1 1/8 ounce limit.
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:42 pm
by setterspell
So..... Did the upgraded B end up costing more than a stock C ?
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:08 pm
by Jeff S
Aspect, check your "PM".
Re: Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:59 pm
by aspeck
PM returned, Jeff. Awaiting your response.