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Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:53 pm
by Researcher
That NID trap gun built on the magnum-frame is marked 5 on the watertable, barrel flat and on a note in an old notebook from the Ithaca factory.
467661 06 NID Magnum Frame standard 12-gauge 5E.jpg
467661 03 NID Magnum Frame Standard 12-gauge 5E.jpg
467661 09 NID Magnum Frame standard 12-gauge 5E.jpg
It is mostly No. 5E but has an extra wedge of barrel engraving. Early NID No. 5Es had silver inlays --
435837 02.jpg
but some time in the 1930s they changed over to gold.
457552 05.jpg

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:15 pm
by Stan Hoover
Dave,
Thanks for setting me straight on that 5E, that is one rare bird since it is a Magnum 2 barrel set. I would like to hold that one and look at it closer for sure. Another Magnum action with barrels that are chambered for 2 3/4” shells, do you know if both barrels have 2 3/4” chambers?

What made me question if it was not a 7 was the barrel breach engraving and the duck inlay. The grade 5 normally had a pheasant on the left and a woodcock on the right.

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:50 pm
by jolly bill
Dave/Rresearcher;

Your foto of the barrels flats of 467661 shows a "4" on the left barrel flat for "FULL" choke. On the right flat it looks like an "8" but I never heard of Ithaca having an "8" choke designation.

So, is it really a "3" for Improved Modified. Or is it a "S"?

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Bill

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:34 am
by Silvers
Also curious that its s/n 467661 is in the range for the regular frame NID, not the Magnum frame with serials starting at 500000.

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:35 am
by Researcher
Bill, as near as I can tell that must be a 3 for Improved Modified.

Stan, as far as the duck goes, here is a late No. 2E Magnum-10 that has a duck on the left side --
500921 01 No. 2E Magnum 10, 32-inch.jpg
instead of the "normal" quail.

These high grade NIDs made after WW-II were likely all special made for special people, as all the post-war Ithaca paper states they are working as hard as they can on the overwhelming demand for Featherlights and that only a limited number of Knick SBTs and NID doubles in Field Grade and No. 2E would be available. Special people like Homer Clark Jr. --
Who Is This Happy Chap pg 1.jpg
Who Is This Happy Chap pg 2.jpg
Speaking of Ithaca, I lost out on a really cool Ithaca poster on ebay yesterday --
Africa Folder Cover.jpg
Africa Folder Inside.jpg

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:48 pm
by Stan Hoover
That is a neat poster there Dave,

I look over on Ebay occasionally, but not enough to catch these neat old advertising pieces.

You were the one who made me aware of magnum actions outside of the 500,000 serial # range, I have never encountered one yet, do you mind saying how many you have observed?

Thanks,
Stan Hoover

PS. Can you decipher the X175 on the rear of the lug??? Repair code??

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:06 pm
by Researcher
I've only heard of two and only have pictures of this one. Have no idea what the X175 means.

Re: Bill G's Trap Gun Collection

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:38 pm
by Stan Hoover
Researcher wrote:I've only heard of two and only have pictures of this one. Have no idea what the X175 means.
Thanks Dave