Fox Collectors

Glenn: I don't have any other pictures of #120. However, check out Spring 2003 DGJ, excellent pictures of Becker 203660 a very similar gun except 120 has nicer barrel wedge engraving.

Mark: Varnish is different from lacquer. Turnbull uses lacquer on restored CC and CSMC uses lacquer on new Foxes. Lacquer is not that durable. If you want to have a gun lacquered properly it needs to be disassembled and degreased. Most collectors just use a light coat of Renaissance micro-crystalline wax. As Eigthbore said most high condition original guns show traces of the original lacquer, if it is not present it can be a red flag.

f-a:

I will see if I can locate a copy. Much obliged.

Glenn

Glenn, you, I, and Mr. Hurst could have solved the problem of examining the engraving on Becker #120. It was for sale, it was for sale for a long time, it was very reasonable in price, and, yes, one or all of us should have bought it. I am a bit disappointed that I didn't bite the bullet. Maybe the present owner would provide pictures of all surfaces.

Mr. eightbore:

I know all about that "I shoulda bought that back then" thing. Howsomever, back then you had to deal with the reality of life at that moment. Looks like a no brainer in retrospect, but it weren't then or we'd have done it.

Best regards,

Glenn

Glenn, you are absolutely right. When old #120 was for sale, locally, in my own pigeon club, all I could do was gawk! Oddly enough, about three quarters (maybe many more) of all Becker guns sold in the last thirty years have passed under my nose, but I have not taken advantage. Bill Murphy

Mark Copeland wrote:If varnish was used as standard practice then why is it an issue to use it today other than changing the gun from its original condition? I've been thinking about adding varnish (by an expert) for one of my foxes to keep what's left of the CC but have been advised in the past not to do.

Galazan's sells a small bottle of case color lacquer. I was advised by John Gillette at Classic Guns that is what he uses as the final step when redoing the colors of gun.
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The metal should be degreased and heated (a hair dryer will work) before this is used. John suggested that it mixed 1/1 with denatured alcohol and applied with 1/4" sable brush.
I purchased a bottle and tried it. It has a definite "tint" to final finish, which you may or may not like.

Pete

I have often seen a Behrens product mentioned as a good choice. I believe it is a spray. I think it is meant to be used on an assembled gun, a much friendlier alternative to taking your gun apart to protect it.

Yes, I believe Oscar was also recomending the Behrens product at the end. I was also advised that Tru-Oil will work. I know some people see a tint as it ages. I have one gun that I have experimented with and am waiting to see....

Pete