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The Anti Flinch I took of the C grade only has the October 12, 1915 patent date. Craig

I've found the Patents for four of the Patent dates we find on Jostam pads. Patent No. 1,156,293, Oct. 12, 1915, issued to W.R. Jorgenson shows what we know as the Anti-Flinch Pad. Patent No. 1,222,291, Apr. 10, 1917, issued to S.A. Huntley is for the original Huntley sponge rubber pad as produced by Huntley Manufacturing Company of Omaha, Nebraska. Later taken over by Jostam and became the Jostam Sponge Rubber Pad. Patent No. 1,642,835, Sept. 20, 1927, issued to A.H. Ammann shows what we know as the Hy-Gun Pad. Patent No. 1,805,273, May 12, 1931, issued to A.H. Ammann is for a pad I've never seen.

JOSTAM is W.R. JOrgenson, W.D. STannard, and A.H. AMmann.

I haven't been able to Google up a patent to go with the Dec. 29, 1914, date found on some Jostam pads.

The patent dates on Tony G's repop Hy Gun pads are:

Dec. 29, 1914; Oct. 12, 1915; Sep. 20, 1927


Mike

I have an old Jostum pad that has the Jostum name and only the same three dates as those listed on Tony's pads.

Well gentlemen, what a pleasant surprise! In reading the posts about the various recoil pads, and the subject came up about the mod. 10-T remington, it really got my attention. I have owned a mod. 10-T for many years, and have never found any detailed information about it. I got it from my uncle when I was a teenager (I will be 72 next month). It is still in very good shape, considering it was used to goose hunt quite a bit. The main subject was recoil pads. Mine has a pad labeled "Rainbow Gunshop". You guys are certainly more informed on the subject than I am. I have no idea what this old gun is worth. I have hung on to it mainly because it seemed to be a bit rare. I would certainly appreciate a response from anyone that can inform me a little on this old girl. It has a ventilated rib barrel, 32", and straight stock, two ivory beads. Bryan

Yours must be the fancier trap grade than mine. There were a couple grades of the trap gun. Having ivory beads and a rib, suggest it must have been one of the upper grades. The rib would have cost the buyer $9.20 extra. The 32 inch barrels also had to be ordered for the model 10. I am still trying to learn more about them. I have checked over on the Remington Society forum. They had some information on manufacture dates by serial number.

Mine is the base grade for the trap model with a mat surface on the top of the standard 30 inch barrel, and American Walnut. It retailed for $82.50 in 1928. Here are a couple of pictures.

This 1915 CE is pictured here http://foxcollectors.com/My%20Forum/php ... php?t=1568 I decided to have a butt plate installed so it will match the card and the original LOP. The butt on this gun is curved, a slight saddle in the center of the butt. Another Fox collector also told me his older guns have a curved butt. My 1911 CE has a curved butt, my 1917 does not. Anybody else have a pre WWI gun with a curved butt?

Craig, That gun sounds like a project. If it were me I would ship it as far away as possible. Idaho is a long ways from you. Great gun! John

Craig, by curved butt I assume you mean a slight concave surface. Yeah I have a s/n 7600's, early B grade on my bench right now that is concave and has its original hrbp.

You didn't ask about recoil pads but I've also seen early pads that were factory fitted on Foxes to a slightly CONVEX butt, presumably to keep the pad tight with zero gap when the screws were tightened. That is a good setup. I've also seen them fitted to the regular concave butt as used for a hrbp. This would be very difficult to do unless the pad was made with a convex base to ~match the radius in the butt. Modern builders will heat and bend flat pads to make them work for that scenario but I wonder how they will act after a few decades on the gun?

Generally, IMO a dead flat butt surface on an earlier Fox gun is a clue the wood may have been cut. Silvers

Gehtlemen Hello,

I have a old C G Bonehill 10 gauge sxs with a Joastam pad , looks to be original see picture.

fox-admin wrote:This 1915 CE is pictured here http://foxcollectors.com/My%20Forum/php ... php?t=1568 I decided to have a butt plate installed so it will match the card and the original LOP. The butt on this gun is curved, a slight saddle in the center of the butt. Another Fox collector also told me his older guns have a curved butt. My 1911 CE has a curved butt, my 1917 does not. Anybody else have a pre WWI gun with a curved butt?

19689 A grade 12 gauge (posted pictures a couple of months ago) had an original curved butt as well.