Ridiculously heavy loads

[Silvers]

A trained retriever is better than any 1 7/8oz load.

Yep that's for fellas who aren't good shots and/or hunt with pipsqueak loads for various reasons I could elaborate on but won't because it will annoy them. I understand and do appreciate good water dog work and especially so when retrieving dead birds, not trying to find wounded ones just clipped by a pellet or two and hiding in weeds and cattails far away from the shooter.

To paraphrase Ruark: Learn to shoot well, use enough gun and load. frank

[loggy]

I shot similar loads thru an 870 Wing Master in the sixties. We shot geese while lying in the mud in rubber waders and a rubber camo raincoat. I quit being that mad at anything a long time ago.

[Stan Hillis]

I shot similar loads thru an 870 Wing Master in the sixties. We shot geese while lying in the mud in rubber waders and a rubber camo raincoat. I quit being that mad at anything a long time ago.

I'm 72 and I'd still do that, but I'd need a very high level of confidence that the birds would show. Thirty years ago I didn't care, I'd just go. I scout more carefully now.

[Researcher]

I had such loads in my Model 12 Heavy Duck the first day I went to the Goose lease I joined on the Eastern Shore. Quickly learned they were either in over the decoys gear down and locked or they were going by so high Elmer couldn't get them with old serial number 500000, or a typewriter!! The great bulk of my Eastern Shore Geese were shot with an A5 Skeet Gun and 1 1/4-ounce loads. When my father visited, he used my wife's Ruger 20-gauge IC & Mod.

[Foxnut]

At the time those shells were manufactured, Dad’s only gun capable of handling 3” shells was the infamous Marlin goose gun.
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I don’t know why but I have an affinity for those Marlin Goose guns!! I have never owned one, am not a water fowler but every time I see one I have to stop and look and then force myself to walk away from it!!!