B grades

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Re: B grades

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Silvers wrote: Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 am I had questions on that special BE I posted. Of course in that s/n range it's a 12-gauge, ordered and shipped at weight 6-6 (28" barrels). Ordered with Cyl and Full chokes. also with note: "Pattern gun and send patterns". Pellet counts were R 191/195 and L 321/329. Shot charge/pellet size were not noted on the Record Card. She was ordered by the Dad of a then elderly gent from SW PA who told the intermediary buyer I got it from that his Dad was a traveling salesman for a company in WV. A really cool gun but IMO not for brush hunting with thinner barrels and the inevitable trips/falls and swinging against saplings and limbs. frank
Frank, thanks for posting that interesting B grade with special order features! I always find those uniquely ordered guns of special interest. Agree with you on thin barrels and the dangers of the grouse woods!
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Attached are pics of two 4th Generation B Grades. The first is 16 Ga. w/SN# 3004XX that letters to May 1915 and is shown to be “Exposition”. JTC assumed this was likely the 1915 Panama Exposition. The second is 12 Ga. W/SN# 224XX that letters to 1915. Assuming w/this ribbon style that the “Ansley H. Fox” is engraved. Brett
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Very nice! Thanks for posting the pictures.
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All very helpful info.

What are the stats on Gen 3 B grades? Any recorded? 12 or 16's?

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What I also find interesting is the difference in barrel engraving. Guess it was up to the craftsman and how much time he had available.
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During the transition from the "Banner Style" C-/CE-Grades to the "Oval with Birds Style" we see some guns with the barrel engraving similar to 2nd generation B-/BE-Grades. Here is the earliest "Oval Style" C-Grade I've seen --
2473 01 C-Grade 30-inch Oval with birds.jpg
I thought this was strange, but then I found this 1907 A.H. Fox Gun Co. magazine ad showing that style --
1907 ad showing C-Grade with normally seen B-grade barrel engraving.jpg
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Re: B grades 3rd gen engraving

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16ga Phili B grade with 3rd gen engraving posted for sale on the parker forum....
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