Value of a Grade B/C 12 Ga.

[MARSHFELLOW]

aspeck,
nice of you to share the card.
tjw

[fox-admin]

To answer your original question, what is value of my gun. The gun is a very interesting special ordered Fox but it suffers greatly from a poor refinish (as opposed to professional restoration in my opinion). So most collector interest is greatly reduced, it is an interesting shooter. Realistically, sold direct to a non-dealer my guess is $1800 to $2400. Hope this helps.

[aspeck]

To answer your original question, what is value of my gun. The gun is a very interesting special ordered Fox but it suffers greatly from a poor refinish (as opposed to professional restoration in my opinion). So most collector interest is greatly reduced, it is an interesting shooter. Realistically, sold direct to a non-dealer my guess is $1800 to $2400. Hope this helps.

That helps a lot. Thank-you.

[aspeck]

aspeck,
nice of you to share the card.
tjw

Well, so many of you gave so much good information and were interested in the grade verses the engraving that I figured you deserved to see what I saw. It is a shame it was refinished, but it is still a very good looking gun. Now to see what the owner wants me to do with it. If she is going to keep it as a family heirloom or if she is going to look for a new home for it.

[Researcher]

That seems extremely odd to me that someone wanted a gun bored for extreme long range shooting weighing only 6 pounds 13 ounces and targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce loads. Our North American ammunition companies were offering lots of 12-gauge 1 1/4 ounce loads, powered by up to 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder such as Infallible or Ballistite, at the time this gun was ordered.

[Jeff S]

I hate to ask what might seem like a stupid question, but what's the difference between a B upgraded to a C, and an actual C? Is there a little difference in the wood?

[Mills]

Very interesting gun. Thanks for sharing with us

[Researcher]

what's the difference between a B upgraded to a C, and an actual C?

The quality of the wood, perhaps a bit of difference in the fit and finish, a somewhat different checkering pattern probably two lines per inch coarser.

[Jeff S]

Thanks Dave.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Aspeck, very nice looking Fox. Due to the different "bluing" done, it wouldn't be a gun for a "collector" but would be a great gun for a shooter. It is a little different than the factory original guns, but as a shooter, different is not always bad. BTW, sorry for the loss of your friend.

[Mike of the Mountain]

That seems extremely odd to me that someone wanted a gun bored for extreme long range shooting weighing only 6 pounds 13 ounces and targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce loads. Our North American ammunition companies were offering lots of 12-gauge 1 1/4 ounce loads, powered by up to 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder such as Infallible or Ballistite, at the time this gun was ordered.

Dave, maybe the original purchaser was a "visionary"??

[Researcher]

I got to thinking after I wrote that that those are about the loads A.H. Fox Gun Co. recommended in their 1914 "Fox Gets the Game" catalog --



Early hang tags show A.H. Fox Gun Co. 12-gauges targeted with 3 dram, 1 1/8 ounce No. 8 loads. By 1916 hang tags they were being targeted with 3 1/8 dram, 1 1/4 ounce of 7 1/2, a popular trap load up to April 1940 when the ATA imposed a 1 1/8 ounce limit.

[setterspell]

So..... Did the upgraded B end up costing more than a stock C ?

[Jeff S]

Aspect, check your "PM".

[aspeck]

PM returned, Jeff. Awaiting your response.