Serial numbers when Ansley was there?

Post by **fox-admin** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:18 am

I know from a letter 18307 was made in October 1911

eightbore · Post by **eightbore** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:23 am

All PAC guns were made while Ansley was in charge. I assume he had his hands on each one before they were shipped. I think he shot a few pigeons with my B Grade before it went out the door.

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:54 am

Wrong! Hate to burst your bubble Bill, but Ansley had resigned from Philadelphia Arms Co. by late December 1904. All their advertising in sporting magazines I ever found was from January to July 1905, and their big art catalogue was dated 1905. The first few guns, less then 200, have A.H. Fox engraved on the sides of the frames. All I've observed from #203 on up have just Fox. Perhaps those with A.H. Fox were made in the fall of 1904 when Ansley was still there.

eightbore · Post by **eightbore** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:16 pm

Live and learn, I guess. Dave, who ran PAC after Ansley left? I guess maybe Ansley never did shoot my B Grade after all. I'm still looking for his Parker pigeon gun.

Researcher · Post by **Researcher** » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:35 am

P.F. duPont and C. William Haywood were the officers of Philadelphia Arms Co. listed in the 1906 Philadelphia City directory.

As far as the original question goes, graded Ansley H. Fox 12-gauge doubles up to the 17xxx or 18xxx range seem seem to fit the Ansley time frame. I know of a high grade in the low 17xxx range that was shipped right during the transition. My Sterlingworth pin-gun in the 60,7xx range was shipped in July 1912.

loggy · Post by **loggy** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:20 pm

I have a DE in the mid 15xxx that has the early engraving pattern but was shipped in February of 1914. My guess would be that it was probably manufactured in the researchers time frame.