Spring DGJ Article by Silvers -Ithaca Super 10's

[fox-admin]

I would like to congratulate Frank for his fine article about Ithaca Super Ten NID shotguns in the new Spring DGJ. Very nice job and I am looking forward to part 2.

[Silvers]

Thank you Craig. The manuscript was pretty long with many pictures but these Ithaca Super 10's are fantastic long range double guns, although little known, and I wanted to do a thorough job. Part 2 includes comments by period writers, a comparison of key features against the Super-Fox, production number, info on use with lead and non-tox shot, and tech info to help evaluate originality if someone comes across one that's for sale. These Ithaca Super 10s are far more scarce than 12 gauge HE's.

[bbman3]

Frank,Great article! Bobby

[TOOL MAN]

Great job, Frank. They should have printed it in its entirety. Who gives an 'obese rodents posterior' about Markhor horns, anyway??
Looking forward to Part-2!!

[Mike of the Mountain]

Tool Man, I happen to love Markhor horns!! They make a great chili and are also very tasty when covered with hummus and tabbouleh and served on pita.

[TOOL MAN]

Ahh,Yes. "Marse Super-Ten" and I have dined on them on several occasions at the inimitable, Zagat rated, Café DuBwah, just a little to the north of Rt-80!!!

[Big Friend Ten]

Frank wrote a really nice piece on the Super 10's!

[Mike of the Mountain]

Frank always writes a very educational article. He knows his stuff and does his research.

[Researcher]

Can't wait to see this article. I've had a No. 2 Ithaca NID Super-Ten for over 29 years now, but it has never been the gun of choice over my old Super-Fox. I recently took pictures of three 10-gauge Western 2 7/8 inch Super-X shells --







Left 1925 to 1932 vintage Super-X load in Western's FIELD shell.
Center 1933 to WW-II Super-X shell
Right Post WW-II shell

[Stan Hillis]

Me, too, Dave. Hope our postman's mule didn't die on him. Haven't seen him in days.

SRH

[Fin2Feather]

I've received my issue but haven't spent any time with it yet. Looking forward to reading the article; looks like a good 'un!

[ROMAC]

I finally got around to reading it last night.

I can't wait for the next issue to read the rest!

[Silvers]

Thanks again men for the feedback; I'm happy you enjoyed the first part.

Just some personal thoughts for those who are (or want to get) into ducking with vintage SxS's. While most any gun/load can be used for decoyed birds you'll probably want to be set up for the long range shooting that inevitably comes with the sport. It's a challenge to get a heavy load of non-tox shot like bismuth or Nice into a 12-gauge 2-3/4" or even a 3-inch hull. That's with modern components. But the Short 10 has room to spare. Ithaca Super 10's are far more scarce than our 12 gauge Super-Foxes, but at present they aren't all that well known except by a few who covet them and thus if/when you see one for sale it will probably go for way less than an HE Grade Fox in comparable condition. I've only seen a few offered for sale over the years since I started looking. S-10's are often confused with the earlier Ithaca Flues Model 10-gauge, and are also mistaken for Ithaca's later Magnum model which are ponderous at least to me. Many S-10's are in good shape because they were put up when 10-gauge 2-7/8" shells were dropped by the ammo companies many moons ago. If interested in getting one, you'll be looking for an Ithaca NID 10-gauge with a s/n in the 400,000 range.

RST sells 10-gauge 2-7/8" factory loaded ammo but it is expensive. But really, all you'll need is a cheap MEC single stage 10 gauge reloading press and a one of the MEC spacers to adapt the 3-1/2" factory setup to 2-7/8". Hulls are easily cut down from new or used 10 gauge 3-1/2 inchers.

L to R
1. Brand-new Rem 3-1/2" hull as sold by Precision Reloading and probably others. Precision also sells new 10-gauge Federal 3-1/2" hulls as well as once-fired 10-gauge hulls.

2. Same hull cut down to 2-7/8" length with a simple cutter

3. One of my loaded Rem shells with a Rem plastic shotcup wad and a 6-point crimp

4. One of the loaded Rem 10-gauge "Express Magnum" shells that I got a a good price, with components scavenged and then cut to 2-7/8". This older Express hull uses the obsolete Rem 57 primer but I have some of those on hand.

[Mike of the Mountain]

Good stuff Frank! I still haven't received my new DGJ issue yet!

[Researcher]

Still no show on the Washington/Idaho border.