Article in Winter 2010 Quail Unlimited - Foxes

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Article in Winter 2010 Quail Unlimited - Foxes

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Just received my copy in the mail. Nice article on Foxes by Tom Archer. Good pictures. He was very enthusiastic about the small bores and found them particularly well suited to quail. Can't disagree with him. Did a good job I thought as it was a short article and he had to paint with broad brush strokes.

He mentioned our assocation's website as a source of information.

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Mike,

Were there any Fox guns pictured? I have not seen the edition as of yet. Thanks-----TOOLMAN
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Why yes.

A 1923 Super Fox 20ga that came with 32" and 28" barrels. And a picture of a CSMC 28 gauge exhibition with a gold inlay Gambel's quail. Very nice.

Also a DE two barrel set with 30" and 26" barrels. He commented that it allowed the owner to hunt ducks in the morning and Bobs in the afternoon. And pictures of a couple of catalogs. Also a CE 20 bore.

It was a nice article about our great guns.

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Thanks Mike. A couple of AHFCA members were kind enough, to offer-up a few of their personal guns to be photograped, while down at The Vintage Cup, last September. We also provided a few catalogs and some help with the captions. Glad to hear it turned out well.------TOOLMAN
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Tom always does a great job and is a true Gentleman. Bobby
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I don't know what I have to do to get across the fact that Ansley Fox was not associated with Baltimore Arms Co. During the whole time of Baltimore Arms Co.'s existance, Ansley was either a professional shooter for Winchester or by the fall of 1902 busy founding Philadelphia Arms Co.

That article is totally wrong at the bottom of page 1 and the first column of page 2. Ansley left the Fox Gun Co., Balto., Md., U.S.A. (July 1898 to Jan 1900) in January 1900 and became a professional shooter for Winchester. His former partners reorganized as Baltimore Arms Co., incorporating in West Virginia, with their principle place of business Baltimore, Maryland, on January 10, 1900. They built a new factory at S. Sharp & Stockholm in Baltimore and built a gun of Frank A. Hollenbeck design. Based on Hollenbeck's Patent No. 643,601 granted Feb. 13, 1900. Ansley was neither an officer or director of Baltimore Arms Co. During the summer of 1901, Ansley and his Wife Fentress moved to Philadelphia. Ansley continued shooting for Winchester well into 1902, then in the fall left and began organizing Philadelphia Arms Co. Ansley's closest association with Baltimore Arms Co. was when he bought much of the machinery and fixtures of Baltimore Arms Co. at their receiver's sale in November and December 1904, resigned from Philadelphia Arms Co., and used the machinery and fixtures to set up the A.H. Fox Gun Co. in 1905.
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Researcher,

I would guess that alot of guys think Ansley had a significant role with Baltimore Arms because of chapter 2 in the Mc Intosh book.."Fox Gun Company Baltimore"....myself included. It's a little hard to unravel the way it's written....and then there's the photo of the Baltimore Arms trap gun.

I am glad that you made it much more clear......thanks!!

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I believe it harks back to the way a sentence was written in an article "History of the A.H. Fox Gun Company" by M.H. Wright in the October 1908, issue of Field & Stream. Subsequent writers picked up on that and the wrong information has been perpetuated ever since. Once something is in print, it is truely impossible to correct it. Like blowing in a plate of feathers and trying to get them all back!!
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More on Fox - Baltimore, and our hot shot shooter.

Clip is dated November 5, 1898. Silvers

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Great find, Frank!! I love it.
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