Trigger Pull

[ml flcn]

I recently bought my first A H Fox. It is a 16 gauge with ejectors. When I shot it for the first time, I was very disapointed with the trigger pulls. The front one is a little over 6 pounds;the really bad part is that there is a lot of creep. The rear one is a little less than 11 pounds, but it doesn't have the creep and is easier to shoot.

Is this a very common condition? Any suggestions how to remedy the situation?

Thanks

[sidreilley]

Hello, while I haven't shot many Foxes, trigger pulls as heavy as you describe are certainly too heavy for accurate shooting. The best solution would be to take the gun to a gunsmith experienced with Foxes and have him do a trigger job. I know there are several that frequent this forum and it would be best to use someone who really is familiar with these guns as the ejector mechanism may affect the pull (I'm not sure how the Fox ejectors work).
If you feel compelled to do something yourself, you could remove the stock using the instructions on this forum, and inspect the engagement surfaces of the sears and hammers, ensuring that there is no rust or debris there. A small amount of gun grease or oil on the engagement surfaces can lighten pulls a bit but it would probably be insignificant in this case. I would be loathe to recommend further dis-assembly or altering the surfaces unless you really know what you're doing, in which case you would not have made this post.
Generally speaking, factories don't spend a lot of time adjusting the engaging surfaces with fine stones and they always error on the heavy side. Yours appears to be too far in that direction. If you plan to shoot the gun much it will be worth it to pay for a professional trigger job. You'll enjoy it a lot more and shoot better with nice triggers.

[ml flcn]

Thanks very much for the courtesy of your reply. My first step will be to open it up and inspect it to see if it is something obvious.

[Dan Rossiter]

Hello
I have adjusted the trigger pull weight on a good number of foxes. The very heavy weights you described (in particular the 11lbs pull) usually has to do with the sear nose angle and how that angle corresponds to the angle of the bent or hammer notch. If these angles do not correspond properly to one another one of two things can happen. You can have very heavy trigger pulls because you are fighting against the hammer spring IE you are caming the hammer back further before the sear releases form the bent (this is likely your problem), Or you will have extremely light trigger pulls and an unsafe situation.
Heavy triggers on a fox is not an unusual thing. I have had to adjust two of my own fox guns and many for clients. If I can be of any assistance please call me on the number below.

[ml flcn]

I am posting this to close the loop. I did call Dan Rossiter. He was very gracious with his time and patience in answering all my questions. It was very helpful, and now I have a plan on how to proceed.