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Just thought I'd post these here.

Some Vintage Coppered Shells I have been fortunate to obtain.

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Thanks for the pics, Will. Great condition.

Would the vintage on the two be about the same?

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Stan,

Dave can help me out if I'm off but I believe the Record's are a tad older 1929-1930, where the Leader's are most likely from the early 30's.

Seeing as Western bought Winchester in 1931 and finally made the switch to one-piece boxes by 1935, I'd say early rather than mid.

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I was thinking that, too, after considering it. Maybe Dave will have some "exact" dates.

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I find the stylized spelling most interesting.
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Great find!!
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Love those! I buy all the loose paper shells that I find (that I can afford!)...not to shoot, just to have. I used to buy all the shell boxes I found too, except now most sellers think everything they've got is collectible!

A fried of mine gifted me these; eight matching brass cartridges saved in a small cardboard box...

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whoever saved them used a very appropriate box too :D !

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The old boxes make for great props when taking pictures!

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The Western RECORDs are 1931 or 32. My take on those Winchester LEADERs are experimental loads leading up to the 4 1/4 dram equiv. 1 5/8 ounce 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum loads introduced with the Winchester Model 12 Heavy Duck in 1935. Those Peters High-Velocity shells with the "New Peters Crimp" are 1947 to 1960. From 1947 to 55 the shells would have had the little paper load sticker over the crimp and the later ones, like those shown, had the shot size stamped on the sides of the hull.
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Thanks Dave. As always, great clarification.

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A couple of new and very unusual coppered shot boxes in the current Ward's Auction --
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Remington was mighty proud of that COPPERED SHOT -- $74 per thousand, when the regular chilled shot NITRO CLUB Trap Load was $52.75 per thousand. From Jan. 1, 1933 --
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