Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

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Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Researcher » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:48 pm

There were two boxes of Western Cartridge Co. Lubaloy Super-Trap Loads in the Ward's Auction ended last evening. The two-piece box --

Super-Trap Load Lubaloy, DuPont Smokeless, two-piece.jpg
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went for less than the later one-piece box --

Super-Trap Load Lubaloy, DuPont M.X. Smokeless.jpg
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Just the things to go with ones Fox SBT.

I guess this shell is all I'm ever going to own --

Wester RECORD Super Trap Lubaloy 01.JPG


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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby MARSHFELLOW » Sat Mar 02, 2019 3:02 pm

Yowie!! Thanks for pointing those out Dave. You're one Lubaloy ahead of me.
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby eightbore » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:41 am

Dave, do you have a picture of a box from those eras that are decribed on the box as a "pigeon load" or "flyer load"?
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Researcher » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:39 pm

It seems that Western Cartridge Co. considered their lighter powder charge 1 1/4 ounce Lubaloy load in the 2 3/4 inch 12-gauge RECORD case the Super-Trap load --

April 1, 1930 top of page 18.jpeg


while the maximum powder charge 1 1/4 ounce Lubaloy load in a 3-inch RECORD case as the Super-X Live Pigeon Load --

July 1, 1929, bottom of page 17.jpeg
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I've never seen a box of these though they were in the Western Cartridge Co. catalogs and price lists from 1929 to 1949.
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Stan Hillis » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:23 am

I saw those too, Dave. New to me.

What would that velocity have been? I've never seen a 3 1/8 - 1 1/4 loading listed on a DE chart.

3 1/4 - 1 1/4 is 1220 fps. Would you think it would be about 1170 ?

The powder choice is interesting too, for a 1 1/4 oz. load.

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Silvers » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:22 am

In 12-gauge, 3-1/8 DE x 1-1/4 ounce = 1190 velocity

JFI ….. 3 DE x 1-1/4 ounce = 1165
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Stan Hillis » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:36 pm

Thank you, Frank.

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby eightbore » Thu May 30, 2019 6:13 pm

I sure would like to see Ward's offer a box of Western 1 3/8 ounces of Lubaloy #4 for us to enjoy, and maybe bid on. So far, no dice.
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Fowlgunner » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:14 pm

Like these Bill?

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Researcher » Sun Jun 02, 2019 9:14 am

And in a 1933 to 39 style box --

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Fowlgunner » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:42 pm

Thanks Dave.

Still looking for that one, the earliest Record 2-piece (If it exists), and the Foil and Plain Mark V.

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby eightbore » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:04 pm

Wow, that is some trio of Nash's favorite shells.
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Fowlgunner » Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:46 pm

Found this too!

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Can't get it to rotate sorry.

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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby eightbore » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:01 am

Thanks for those great pictures.
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Re: Lubaloy Super-Trap Shells

Postby Researcher » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:19 am

From the introduction of the Super-Trap load with Lubaloy shot in 1929, they were put up in the high brass RECORD case. From the April 1, 1930, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun --

Super-Trap Load, April 1, 1930, loaded in RECORD Shell.jpeg


With the introduction of non-corrosive primers in 1931, they began putting the Super-Trap load with Lubaloy shot in the FIELD shell. From the March 1, 1931, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun --

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